Biden plans to ask Congress for funding to develop new COVID vaccine, may require shot for all

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  1. LangleyMan

    LangleyMan Well-Known Member

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    That's why there's a Supremacy Clause? I don't think so.
    Why should you make government not work?
    That's not what unions aspire to do.
    Huh? Both sides? One side hires, the other side sre employees.
    I've been on both sides. Workers have every right to form a union.
     
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    fmw Well-Known Member

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    Sorry, I'm not making myself very clear. You are answering things I didn't say. I'll move on.
     
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    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    Not an infant, a fetus is not an 'infant'. A fetus does not qualify for a birth cert.
     
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    A birth certificate certifies a birth. So you are correct there.
     
  5. LangleyMan

    LangleyMan Well-Known Member

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    I was talking about protecting an infant, not a fetus.
    Of course not.
     
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    Okay.
     
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    Time to fortify another election!!!
     
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    My how the goalposts keep moving. I remember being met with extreme ridicule and conspiracy theory accusations when I said, "They aren't asking us to take a shot. This is something they will want you to take forever." I said this starting about Feb 2020. Back when everyone referred to it as the shot. Remember that?
     
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    you don't have to get the flu shot or the covid shot if you do not want too, but you can
     
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    That wasn't my point; I was ridiculed for saying then, what you are saying now.

    I was also called a conspiracy theorist for accurately predicting:

    1. A new variant would emerge (I somehow even got the country right: Africa) that was going to evade the vaccine and thus spread anyway. I said that before the word variant had ever been mentioned by any media, health expert, or political personality.

    2. That natural immunity probably existed (as the powers that be absolutely denied it). And that it offered stronger protection than the vax.

    3. I swore up and down that Biden would mandate it, during the time that Biden, Pelosi, Fauci, and everyone else were saying they wouldn't. That was some conspiracy theory huh?

    4. Ongoing prediction: you aren't going to find that animal host. Back then, that was sacrilege.

    I could go on with my "conspiracy" theories.

    You want to know an actual conspiracy theory on my mind?

    A bunch of powerful people said that the unvaccinated were stupid, unpatriotic people. They repeatedly said we were going to die. One theory is that these people will NEVER admit they are wrong, even to the point of manipulating events to MAKE THEMSELVES RIGHT. Kinda like when they all said repeatedly that Trump wasn't leaving without violence, so on Jan6, their last moment to be right, they manipulated events to MAKE THEMSELVES RIGHT.

    So yes, I'm scared to death that these people are desperately working on something that their vaccine WILL stop, in order to kill off all of us noncompliants.
     
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    not sure who told you no variants would emerge that may not be covered, was highly likely with a fast replicating airborne virus

    also boosters are used to get the immune system ready before flu season, a boost so to say, so hopefully takes the immune system less time to get up to speed
     
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    No, I remember all of the ridicule well. I said it would mutate, and in the first few months that was considered ridiculous.
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    like I said, no clue who you were talking too, as most knew it was likely to happen, many hoped it would not due to it targeting the spikes, which has made it less a issue
     
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    No, this dynamic is real. We are dealing with an administration, deep state, and media who cannot take being wrong. They will do their best to manipulate events TO MAKE THEMSELVES RIGHT. They did it with Trump. And it's obvious they are desperately trying to provoke Putin in order to make their prophecies true.
     
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    that was the last admin, the Fraudster Trump running to be President in 2024

    do you remember Trump telling us 15 going on zero... did you believe him?

    "A timeline of what Trump has said on coronavirus"

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/timeline-president-donald-trump-changing-statements-on-coronavirus/
     
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    Are you sure you were listening carefully? Experts were mentioning variants early on in terms of the efficacy of potential vaccines.
    It's a novel virus This is from March 2020.

    https://www.brgeneral.org/news-blog/2020/march/what-does-novel-coronavirus-mean-/
    Only people who can pass it on to a lot of other people have been required to get vaccinated. If you work in a hospital or care home, you could kill a lot of helpless people.
    I wonder if you know why they're looking for an animal host.
    As long as you understand this is nonsense and spreading it damages society.
     
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    And you will, when you're scared silly and gullible to boot. Humans are easy to deceive, and thus very easy to manipulate. Bernays and Goebbels and many more knew that a century ago.
     
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    I understand the dynamic well. Rich and powerful people go on record with hyperbolic statements like: (1) Trump is Hitler, and he won't leave without violence, or (2) Putin is Hitler, and he won't stop, or (3) America is fundamentally racist, or (4) Miami is going to be underwater soon, or (5) There is a genocide against trans people occurring before our eyes.

    And they will never back down from their hyperbole. Their statements will become true; they must become true. Even if they have to manipulate events to make it happen. So Jan 6 was gonna be violent no matter what, and Trump was gonna be the cause. Putin is gonna be Hitler, and they are going to keep provoking Russia right on their border, and now within Russia itself, until he makes some moves that they can sell as Hitlerish. If they are unable to manipulate reality, they use their media and technology to manipulate how we see it.

    But the pattern is clear. A lot of prestigious and important people said repeatedly that the unvaccinated were stupid, and therefore, doomed. Right now, I expect them to be working full time and wielding all of their power and resources to make their statements become prophecy...
     
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    Jan6 was violent. The rioters determined the level of violence.
    Some unvaccinated may have good reason to avoid getting vaccinated, many do not. It's their choice, except when they are in positions like medical care where they can hurt vulnerable people.
     
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    The Capitol is a big building. There was not violence on all sides as the footage shows. Many people had no idea they were participating in a "violent insurrection", but the Biden administration didn't care and painted them all with the same brush like I said they planned to do on day one.

    I don't have a problem with jail time for those who engaged in violence. So if there is evidence showing you were striking, or attempting to strike, police officers with flagpoles or other objects, then putting my best judge hat on, I'd say 3-4 years minimum, with perhaps 1-3 years added on for possible insurrection intent. If you sprayed bear spray, same. If the couple dozen (out of 200k+ people present) Oathkeeper or Proud Boys types (that I believe the FBI infiltrated long before Jan 6) had insurrection intent, as determined by a fair trial, then I would give around 8-10 years. People that broke things, like Ashli if they didn't execute her first, 6 months - 1 year.

    But no, from the full footage we have, 90% of the people there had no idea that Biden intended to forever paint them as insurrectionists.
     
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    Yes, and so what? As you pointed out, we have video.
    In fact, many did not participate. They never entered the Capitol.
    Trump was still President. There was no "Biden Administration." The rioters, a minority of the rightwingers rallying at the Capitol, were entirely responsible for the violence. Full stop.
    You come across as reasonable until you imply government provocateurs were behind the Jan6 violence and claim the government executed Ashli Babbitt. We have video of her jumping through a small window opening next to the door. If she had been armed, she could have helped the mob breach the door.
    Welcome to the Bigs, folks.
     
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    What facts are those that are known?
     
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    More than you're able to confront.
     
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    That's called evasion. Why bother even posting that? So now you're getting all vague about the main conspiracy claim of a lab-leak? How very bizarre.
     

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