Biden says troops should be dishonorably discharged if they disobey order to get Covid vaccine

Oops, sorry. The person who said so was the poster with the nickname US Conservative, not you. My bad. Since you commented on my reply to him, I didn't realize it wasn't the same poster.

My analogies are not bad at all... they were a bit tongue-in-cheek but the point remains that the mRNA technology is great progress (and it came about not as fast as people think; the technology has been in the works since 1987, and attempts were made for the flu, Zika, rabies, and cytomegalovirus). This technology has great potential to also enhance our arsenal against other pathogens and even against cancer.

You haven't seen any evidence that Covid-19 is a threat to healthy 18-40 year olds? Look again. Google an Ohio State University study done with their student athletes. Sure, the death toll is very small... but organ damage is not as rare. Also, we HAVE seen cases of young and healthy people dying of Covid-19. Sure, they are rare... but why take the chance, if the vaccine is so minimally dangerous? In any way you look into it, the benefits outweigh the risks, statistically speaking.

Good, if you are well-versed in virology, then we have more in common than I thought.

 

Perfect, I didn't want or expect it

 

Going through and reading your posts now on the link you posted.

I am not well versed in virology to the standards of any formal schooling. All of my knowledge comes from decent at math, my brother and sister in law are both medical professionals and the drive to understand things that may be forced upon me in the future plus covid isnt going anywhere so I want to understand as much as possible.

Gonna need more time to read through your posts and do more research before I respond further because it's starting to push my limits of understanding without more research. Most people for and against vaccines dont seem to be educated enough let alone to your level. Although I'm still not a fan of the analogy lol

 

Biden and Milley should be in Leavenworth for their treasonous ways against this nation.

 

All vaccines under EUA are experimental.

 

The analogy was an attempt at putting it in simple terms. You'll see that my posts are two kinds: those that are more full-blown scientific, and those that are simplifications. After all, one of the ideas that drove me to post here, was to clarify and put in accessible terms, some virology and immunology concepts, in order to dispel misinformation. I've done it more or less successfully... sometimes more, sometimes less. At times I was berated for making it too complicated and with a level of information that isn't relevant to non-specialists.... at other times I was berated for making it too simple and skipping over some details. Finding the right balance is not the easiest task, but I try.

You may also want to look at a shorter thread, about variants:

http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/sars-cov-2-variants.584511/

 

I served in the Army in the mid-70s.

Basically, when you sign up, you turn yourself over to Uncle Sam. I got shot with all kinds of shots because Uncle Sam wanted me to do. I didn’t question it. I didn’t even pay attention to what I was being vaccinated against.

I say absolutely NO to Dishonorable Discharges if service members refuse the vaccine.

But I do expect them to comply.

So if they refuse this order, give them an Honorable Discharge and move on.

 

So your definition is based on your perception. Got it.

 

Weird how if Biden is Mr COVID that his Administration isn't testing migrants as they are allowed to illegally enter and then are dispersed into unsuspecting towns.

DHS chief: Why, no, we didn't test any of the 15,000 migrants in Del Rio for COVID



0.16 percent of Haitians are fully vaccinated.

 

I read that as many as half of the current Navy Seals might leave the service over the vaccine mandate (not to mention CRT, now seemingly one of the military's top priorities).

 

It doesn't matter what you call it. It matters what is.

 

Yeah. I don't blame yah for slip sliding out of that.

No worries.

Enjoy your weekend.

 

Always do, and without fear too

 

Their job is not to take vaccines.

 

It's not for their neighbors. That's hype. That's the rhetoric for divisiveness. As noted, those with vaccines still get infected and still transmit.

The real benefit is less severe symptoms. That doesn't impact neighbors.

 

It would seem, that's how CDC operates. When definitions change. You should be suspect as to why.

 

Their job is also to stay healthy.

 

A leftie eager for death....

What else is new?

 

Sorry, the smiley face was supposed to suggest satire. A few didn't get that.

 

My bad

 

So... you believe that it is more healthy to get a vaccination with unknown long term effects verse risking possibly getting covid with unknown long term effects.

Sounds like a judgement call for the individual to me.

 

Oh well....when I had the polio, measles, chicken pox, injections, no-one then knew what the possible long term effects would be. How can that ever be predicted with any vaccine?

 

Yeah. The science changes on new viruses as we learn.

Your assesement seems to imply that if scientific evidence changes based on new evidence that it should be discounted.

You would make a poor scientist.

 

Simplest terms, after vaxxed you are still contagious and new reports even more so then unvaxxed, still vulnerable, and still have a chance to succumb to death.. And without periotic boosters that little protection it does supply wears of quickly.. On the hand natural immunities are much stronger, last a life time and give the best chance of survival simply because those folk SURVIVED

Some vaccine!
Long-Term Damage from COVID Vaccination – Undercurrents (wordpress.com)

Really at this point who is telling the truth, right. Don't you think with all the conflicting data it would have made far more sense to just test everyone in 2020 for antibodies and at least get a real number on how many have or were surviving this pathogen to begin with...

But hell, that most likely would have cost the vaccine makers and the stockholder loose billions and we couldn't, WOULDN'T want to do that!

 

Well unlike the "Fear mongered" I'd rather have one poor honest scientist then a million dishonest agenda driven ones when gambling with my life and body..