Biden tanks in the polls, Harris surges

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  1. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    So youre saying she should be the First Lady?
     
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    No Biden will keep the #1 spot, which he has now. That was a lucky strike that is temporary that Kamala inflicted on Biden, it'll be mostly gone by the next poll and things will be almost the same by the 3rd debate outside of Biden struggling in 3rd or 4th place.
     
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    I am saying a prostitute is now the libs' and progs' flag-bearer and savior.... she has Trump's number, right? :roflol:
     
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    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    Between the First Lady and the first porn chick, I thought you guys liked prostitutes
     
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    We love the fact that a whore is the leader and the savior of the Democrat party very much indeed.
     
  6. mentor59

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    It was low life Trump **** she used.

    IMHO, she hurt Joe, herself and the entire Dem party.
     
  7. ImNotOliver

    ImNotOliver Well-Known Member

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    I agree. I think that ideologically, Warren is spot on, and every policy position is well though out.
     
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    Mrlucky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Where? Cuba, Venezuela?
     
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  9. Vernan89188

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    Huh, I'm truly lost, who did what now?

    Someone is fighting for rights, and someone is opposed?
    Did that exchange boil down to that? If not, please elaborate.

    If so..who cares...granted rights need to be defended, plants cant defend their rights, Puppys have defended by looking up with their sad faces..If men feel the right to have an abortion..Then let men have abortions.
    Some men abort all the time into a rag, or a pocket Pu$$y, why should government stop them, its their body.
    And some men are opposed to spreading their seed where there is no egg,.. that is their problem.

    Bottom line is control where you share your seed, or spread it..Its that persons body to deal with their consequences of their actions...Should we start arresting men for abusing the seeds in their sack?

    By the way I'm against abortions, of both sexes, and government is not the solution for that problem...Its just asking for something to be taxed.
     
  10. ronv

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    The Democrats can pick who ever they like best out of the top 4 or 5. They can all beat Trump. The not Hillary vote is worth about 5 points.
     
  11. Andrew Jackson

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    Totally.

    This time nobody will be "sitting it out" or wasting votes on a 3rd Party.
     
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    Here are the differences . Trump calls names. She did not. . Trump attacks referencing rumors, innuendo and stereotypes. She did not. Trump attacks using family, friends and acquaintances. She did not. Trump attacks referencing his oppponent's appearance, race, religion or sexuality. She did not. Most important Trump does it when his opponent is not there, half the time by tweet . She did when Biden was there to defend. [I took the liberty here to delete extraneous material neither one said in this colloquy for space reasons but this includes every word on race, segregation etc. ] https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...rst-democratic-debate/?utm_term=.9eb241c89209
    Harris :"...
    and I'm going to now direct this at Vice President Biden, I do not believe you are a racist, and I agree with you when you commit yourself to the importance of finding common ground.
    But I also believe, and it's personal — and I was actually very — it was hurtful to hear you talk about the reputations of two United States senators who built their reputations and career on the segregation of race in this country. And it was not only that, but you also worked with them to oppose busing. But I also believe, and it's personal — and I was actually very — it was hurtful to hear you talk about the reputations of two United States senators who built their reputations and career on the segregation of race in this country. And it was not only that, but you also worked with them to oppose busing.
    And, you know, there was a little girl in California who was part of the second class to integrate her public schools, and she was bussed to school every day. And that little girl was me.
    So I will tell you that, on this subject, it cannot be an intellectual debate among Democrats. We have to take it seriously. We have to act swiftly. As attorney general of California, I was very proud to put in place a requirement that all my special agents would wear body cameras and keep those cameras on."

    BIDEN: It's a mischaracterization of my position across the board. I did not praise racists. That is not true, number one. Number two, if we want to have this campaign litigated on who supports civil rights and whether I did or not, I'm happy to do that.
    I was a public defender. I didn't become a prosecutor. I came out and I left a good law firm to become a public defender, when, in fact — when, in fact . ..
    when, in fact, my city was in flames because of the assassination of Dr. King, number one.
    Number two, as the U.S. — excuse me, as the vice president of the United States, I worked with a man who, in fact, we worked very hard to see to it we dealt with these issues in a major, major way.
    The fact is that, in terms of bussing, the bussing, I never — you would have been able to go to school the same exact way because it was a local decision made by your city council. That's fine. That's one of the things I argued for, that we should not be — we should be breaking down these lines.
    But so the bottom line here is, look, everything I have done in my career, I ran because of civil rights, I continue to think we have to make fundamental changes in civil rights, and those civil rights, by the way, include not just only African Americans, but the LGBT community.

    HARRIS: But, Vice President Biden, do you agree today — do you agree today that you were wrong to oppose bussing in America then? Do you agree?
    BIDEN: I did not oppose bussing in America. What I opposed is bussing ordered by the Department of Education. That's what I opposed. I did not oppose . ..
    HARRIS: Well, there was a failure of states to integrate public schools in America. I was part of the second class to integrate Berkeley, California, public schools almost two decades after Brown v. Board of Education.
    BIDEN: Because your city council made that decision. It was a local decision.
    HARRIS: So that's where the federal government must step in.
    BIDEN: The federal government . ..
    HARRIS: That's why we have the Voting Rights Act and the Civil Rights Act.
    That's why we need to pass the Equality Act. That's why we need to pass the ERA, because there are moments in history where states fail to preserve the civil rights of all people.

    I do agree that she conflated an opposition to bussing, with an opposition to federally ordered bussing. But she did it in a forum that allowed for him to clarify and he did. But he was completely ineffectual at showing how that makes much of a difference in most of the country when cities and counties throughout the south want segregation and reciting his civil rights record does not do squat especially in a party that has advocated for a federal response to segregation since 1968! She was smart enough to point that out. I still don't know his answer to that inconsistency as a Democrat. We support the civil rights acts, the voting rights acts etc as national/ federal remedies. Did he?
     
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  13. BuckyBadger

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    Men cannot get pregnant, so they cannot have abortions. A Democratic candidate thinks men can have abortions and wants to make it legal.
     
  14. mentor59

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    Here is the similarity. She is a phony, Trump is a phony.
     
  15. btthegreat

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    I don't know her well enough to speak to that. I'll have plenty of time to learn. I do think this was fair exchange, and Biden bungled it as he did this entire debate. That's not on her. Its on him.
     
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  16. Vernan89188

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    Heh, yea ok.
    Sounds like he trolled as many people as Trump has been doing this whole term, just to pander the opposition into hatred...He hit a chord he knew would excite the opposition possibly.
    I dont even know the dude, but sounds like he got the right wing talking about him.
     
  17. BuckyBadger

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    More like he wet himself on stage and lost any hope of furthering his ambitions. Now, he is the Democrat idiot who thinks men can have abortions.

    His campaign was tubed with one 30 sec. statement.

    :)
     
  18. Vernan89188

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    Isn't that what we all said with Trump?

    Obama not a citizen, Woman let you rape them, and his supporters are dumb as rocks and will follow him even if he shoots someone on fifth avenue?
     
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  19. BuckyBadger

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    No, Trump never said men can have abortions. but thanks anyways.....
     
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    Its all tongue in cheek...Right?

    I find it funny at the notion, Men having abortions...Mexico paying for the wall, etc.
     
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  21. Thedimon

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    You are almost there!
    Democrats need a candidate who is half black, half Mexican, a female and gay. I feel like adding transgender would help, but I just don’t see how that’s going to be possible unless they invent multi-gender and multi-orientation identities.
    And who gives a **** about what the candidate stands for, as long as she is all those things she is golden in their eyes.
     
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  22. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    Maybe, but he doesn't act like him, like Trump
     
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    they do, from looking at such a ugly thing in the background ^^
     

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