Biden will ‘make Abbas great again,’ says Israeli pundit

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  1. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sure - as payback for what they did to the Palestinians - supporting my premise that this is a Blood Feud.
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What were Jews paid back for when they were put into concentration camps in WWII?
     
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    Moi621 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Wrongly, later reparations did not include the land deeds
    to Jewish owned properties.

    The deeds could have been awarded to Jewish groups
    because lawful owners were exterminated.



    Moi
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    They seek a land corridor to NYC!
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Was Adolf that put them there. I don't get your conflation of the Holocaust with the Palestinian / Israel blood feud.
     
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    It is not anti-semitism to call the Israeli state what it is, apartheid and unjust.
     
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    This is not even the most idiotic excuse for violence against Jews, but it's nonetheless in top 3 most idiotic, because it 1. completely ignores that Jews don't have a culture of blood feud and 2. systematically ignores every single piece of historical evidence contradicting the theory. Proponents of this incredibly hateful theory live in a fantasy world where Jews are always guilty, all Jews of all ages and genders everywhere, and the real victims are their killers. There are always excuses for gruesome murders and massacres, but only as long as the victims are Jews. There are never excuses for something Jews did.

    Pray tell, how does your blood feud theory explain, for example, the massacres of Jewish communities in Palestine in 1517 (Hebron, Safed), 1660 (Safed and Tiberias), 1834 (Safed, Hebron), 1838 (Safed)? The list is much longer if we look at the wider Arab world, of course. I can't wait to hear how devious Jews' horrible deeds led the victimized Muslim mobs to rightfully attack their oppressors.

    https://david-collier.com/arab-knife-excuses/
     
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    How can you get anything if your premise is false?

    The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem was Hitler's ally.
     
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    You are rambling on and making no sense. 1) False - as evidenced by Blood Feud they have going on with the Palestinians.
    2) Contradicting what theory .. and how ?

    Then you ramble on about some Jewish community in 1517 as if it has relevance.
     
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    What premise is false .. and why. And we all know that Muslim nations were allied with Hitler .. as were many other nations - but how is this relevant to the premise ? - once you have figured out what the premise you are referring to is :)
     
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    1. That's circular reasoning, a logical fallacy. Please bring tangible proof of a Jewish blood feud culture.
    2. Jews were massacred and oppressed throughout the Middle East and North Africa, including Palestine, long before the current conflict. How does your blood feud theory explain this?

    Ignoring the wider historical, cultural, and every other sort of context is not going to make your theory true. Context always has relevance. The correct context, of course. History didn't begin in 1948.
     
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    Your claim that the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is a blood feud is your false premise.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I didn't say they had such a culture .. it was you that brought that up.. and now trying to project your musings onto me.. Twaddle off now ..
     
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    How is it false .. quit making unsubstantiated claims. and get an argument :)
     
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    Here’s the real reason to hate Israel;

    “What is your attitude toward people who surpass you in the creation of wealth or in other accomplishments? Do you aspire to equal their excellence, or does it make you seethe? Do you admire and celebrate exceptional achievement, or do you impugn it and seek to tear it down? Caroline Glick, the dauntless deputy managing editor of the Jerusalem Post, sums it up: “Some people admire success; some people envy it. The enviers hate Israel.”
     
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    Anything else? If not, then it is even more one-sided than I thought.
     
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    The conflation is obvious - Israel is hated 'cos it full of Jews.
     
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    :wall:
     
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    the racist white south africans accused people who were opposed to Apartheid, of being "anti-white".

    ;)
     
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    and Germany from 1941 to 1945 was hated because it was full of Germans.


    yada yada yada.
     
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    Bahhh .. Palestine is Hated 'cos it full of Palestinians. USA 'cos it full of Americans .. and so on.

    Too much bias you have on this issue. No relation between the Pal/Israel Blood Feud and the Holocaust - sans "Its about Jews" .. as if everything relating to Jews or disliking - wishing to kill Jews has some Holocaust relation.

    The conflation is fallation :) (as in fallacy - not the other potential meaning - get mind out of the gutter ! )
     
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    Now you're saying, all Germans are fascists.

    Tsk... tsk...
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    On the subject of RSA now that the blacks are self-governing and most whites are out of power - South Africa is so much better off :buggered:
     
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    To start, the US gives billions in economic and military aid per year. We also give loans we turn into grants and forgive. We use our position on the US Security Council to veto just about any resolution that adversely affects Israel. And much more...

    And we get "anti-missile technology." Our Patriot Missile Tech was created by Raytheon, an American company. If Israel helped in the creation of the system, I didn't see any reference to it. What I do see references to is the fact that supporting Israel costs the US greatly in money, political capital, and international scorn.
     
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    and you're saying all Israelis are racists.

    tsk tsk
     

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