Bidenomics Is Folly, Here Are Some Facts

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  1. Endeavor

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    GDP

    Florida 1.3

    Texas 2.1 T

    Georgia 714 b

    North Carolina 685 b

    South Carolina 285 b

    Tennessee 439 b

    Total 5.5 trillion

    VS

    NY 1.9 T

    CA 3.5 T

    IL 973 b

    Total 6.3


    I am just curious , what on earth you are talking about?
     
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    Yet, CA is #1 GDP in America. apparently, DEM didn’t screw up anything.
     
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    I know , I know Breitbart owner is going to jail soon. I think Americans knows about that.
     
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    I've noticed that all sites who oppose the views of the left and the democrats are already labeled batshit crazy. That would say the only reliable element is that the people doing that labeling are the only ones who really own it. When right means agreeing with you and wrong opposing you, there's no credibility to any of your opinions or claims.
     
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    A discussion of the transfer of people and capital from the northeast to the south. California and Illinois were not part of that discussion. DC, MD, NJ, NY, CT, RI, MA were. The Washington DC to Boston corridor.
     
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    Which is why MBFC and its methods and persons are so full of crap. And to think that there’s a similar site (NewsTalkers) that banned the use of conservative sources that didn’t meet their standards. It is their holy grail and why I’m here.
     
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    Thats not really the point now is it .. but, to be sure - anything is better than the Biden Economic Folly. This war being perhaps the biggest economic blunder over-shadowing everything else .. and while strange as it is.. and while Red is still big neocon .. Trump wasn't and managed to get into power .. and did manage to keep us out of war .. Not that he would have kept us out of this one .. but -- Anything is better than what Brain-dead Biden is doing.
     
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    I see you want to prove southern state/ Red state are greater then Blue State but you want to exclude the most wealthiest Blue state in the country so your math works.

    I remember a republican president , who would call it “ Fuzzy math”.
     
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    Let's see....
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    That IS the point. The rest of your post is a smokescreen that does not answer my question. Seems to be a common habit with righties around these parts.
     
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    No Luci - my post answered your question - you just didn't understand .. and blaming the smoke in your own eye on others.

    "Hardship - Debt - slave wages - wealth inequality .. those at bottom starting to pop" ---I told you the biggest issue causing this hardship. Yes we could list of a hundred minor things .. but the over all cause of this Pain .. this Suffering and the pain and suffering we are going to be suffering into the future is a function of and/or connected to this war .. and Foreign policy in general.

    There are numbers thrown around - done my own calculations - from 7 -10 Trillion -- Pissed down the Iraq/Afghanistan Toilet over 20 years starting 911. I am going to go 10 cause its nice and round .. 500 Billion/year for 20 Years gonna buy alot of Beer .. Roads - infrastructure - investing in Technology - ramping up our economy to compete in the 3rd millennium

    Instead down the toilet .. chasing desert dwellers with AK-47 around the desert ... and your all stuck on Red vs Blue -- like there is a difference in the Neocon Room ??

    What part of that didn't you see .. Luci .. and don't forget who you are talking to .. cheeky devil :)
     
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    He really has no control over what the fed is doing. Powell has been a disaster.
     
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    Lucifers asks-
    "And what do republicans bring to the table to address that?"

    He's asking what they do to address the problems brought about by the democrats. Others would ask the same question with the parties reversed.

    Regardless of the party- good administration can only be done by people holding common values, and common goals for the good of the nation, not for the party or the politician.
    They MUST have common ground agreements on their purpose and objective. I believe that exists more on the republican than the democrat side, but other conditions make that almost meaningless.

    The common grounds must include being willing to be realistic and practical. Working toward the primary objective of making our society a better, safer environment where people can navigate life, raise families and build the economy in safety. Their common duty is to Serve The People. This can only be achieved if Congress operates in an environment of honor- and order. It can't be done in the middle of a pissing match, an adversary environment where serving the people is a distant promise that supposedly will result from the chaos of trying to destroy each other. It cannot be done by anyone surrendering sound values and agreeing to join the insanity for the sake of "peace" when that would only make matters worse.

    Congress has the duty and the power to serve the nation's best interests. The only possible way that this institution can do that job is when the people who hold those offices are dedicated to that goal above all others- and the only way to do that is to allow nothing else. The environment of Congress itself is the primary culprit allowing this to continue.

    The Congress is the only body in government that has no real oversight- and No, elections are not functional as an oversight. Oversight must be independent enforcement of fundamental standards that has the power to remove elements not compatible with the objectives- and it must be done timely with serious violations of duty.... meaning, immediately. We will never be able to always elect honorable men. But we must maintain that honor among all who hold that position, and that power cannot be held by the politicians themselves. When it is- we get what we have today.

    Congress has the congressional authority to expel (fire) any member deemed unfit by a 2/3 vote. Immediate removal.

    In the 158 years since the end of the civil war, congress has used that power- TWICE. 525 members. Members convicted of felonies of all kinds, deviant sexual conduct, drugs, etc- many imprisoned, but not removed from Congress by the vote of its members. Congress has not, will not, and cannot functionally discipline itself. That ensures it will only exist in a dysfunctional form, unable to fulfill its duty to the nation and the people. Yet, we cannot blame the individual member too strongly- When you find yourself in a game where all the other players cheat, you have few choices. You either quit, or lose everything, or learn to cheat better than your opponents. That is the environment of our Congress today- and while most of them know it, many of them hate it and wish it were the honorable institution it is supposed to be.

    All we ask of these people is that they do their job- With honesty and transparency, following the rules that Congress itself has made and they are sworn to uphold. That cannot happen in the environment Congress has created for itself today, and it's impossible to tell who is primarily at fault because they all must play the game as it exists.

    There's not a single member of Congress that has not violated the oath of their office. Violated the fiduciary duty of their office. Violated the rules of conduct for government employment, which includes them.

    WHY are such people still holding office? We the people.... can't fire them for it, and they won't fire themselves.

    We lack a system of removing the people who refuse to do their job honorably and tolerate the abuse. Let's fix that. We can, there is a way. Willing to help?
     
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    ****!!

    You made me shoot coffee outta my nose!!!
     
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    Actual national and international economic reality is not your friend but desperate RW spin apparently is what's left.
     
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    It seems all liberals shoot coffee out their nose, among other things.

    And of course- nobody makes them do such things, it's a choice they make, we must assume- the best they can do in any effort to control themselves. Everything is a reaction.
     
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    Ummmmm.... Whut?
     
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    Whut....


    Behavior is not something others make you do; it's the way you allow yourself to behave. If you have a violent reaction to something because you disagree or don't like it, that's a reaction created by your own
    psychology, not the event you don't like. "you made me blow coffee out my nose". No.
     
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    A spit take isn't a behavior. You made me laugh unexpectedly with your ridiculous punchline "Breitbart is a legitimate news source".

    Too funny mang.
     
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    I'm not the one who said that. I spoke only to the idea that what you feel and how you react is caused by other people and reflects on them rather than you.
     
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    Then why are you hassling me?

    Get lost.
     
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    Breitbart is not a credible source. They are very biased, and don't do much fact checking.

    https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/breitbart/

    Sorry, but you are in the minority on most issues.
     
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    That isn't so. You're just playing the grievance/victim card, something the right does often.

    There are many conservative-leaning news sources that practice traditional journalism, like vetting their sources and fact-checking, making sure that what they're telling us is solid information. Here's a list for you:

    https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/right-center/
     
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    So you respond with a site that focuses on right-center bias. I notice they don't mention left bias.
    What I said about labeling all objections stands.

    In a just society- ALL news sources would subscribe to the classic ethics of journalism. They would report honestly, completely and balanced. They would identify their editorial opinions clearly as being so.
    Instead, we have a pissing match, and when the first shot is tolerated, it lowers the bar for everyone and that becomes the name of the game. I think the right would be happy to see the bar restored- I think the left would like to see it lowered further, so they could meet it without changing their standards.
    Just my opinion.
     

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