Biden's going to censor your text messages next?

As has already been posted:

"SMS is a store-and-forward service, meaning that when you send a text message to a friend, the message does not go directly to your friend's cell phone. The advantage of this method is that your friend's cell phone doesn't have to be active or in range for you to send a message. The message is stored in the SMSC (for days if necessary) until your friend turns his cell phone on or moves into range, at which point the message is delivered. The message will remain stored on your friend's SIM card until he deletes it."
https://computer.howstuffworks.com/e-mail-messaging/sms.htm

If they're storing text messages, even briefly, they can filter them without much headache. They don't go directly from one phone to another.

 

That's referring to SMSCs storage, the error in your post is you are assuming that all text messages are stored in an SMSC . In actuality, texts are only stored on an SMSC when your message fails to reach it's destination using the control signal

When you send a text, that text is sent via control signal, the signal goes from your phone to a signal tower, to your friend's device. If the signal fails to reach your friend, then the message is stored on an SMSC. To put in perspective for you, voice mail works in a similar manner. When you phone your friend the signal goes directly to your friend's phone via signal tower, but when your friend doesn't answer their phone, you leave a recorded message which then goes to a data storage center.

This is essentially what I was referring to in post #66, the requirements would be to archive all text messages before they are sent, which would require changing the standard function of texting, and significantly slow down the process of sending a text message, to the point of potentially taking days

 

Not according to this:

SMSC stands for “short message service center.” This is the part of a mobile network that handles all SMS operations. Take storing, forwarding, routing, converting, and delivering of Short Message Service (SMS) messages. When an SMS is sent from any mobile phone, it must get to an SMSC before it is forwarded to the end-point or destination.
https://yatebts.com/solutions_and_technology/smsc-sms-center/

And
The control channel also provides the pathway for SMS messages. When a friend sends you an SMS message, the message flows through the SMSC, then to the tower, and the tower sends the message to your phone as a little packet of data on the control channel. In the same way, when you send a message, your phone sends it to the tower on the control channel and it goes from the tower to the SMSC and from there to its destination.
https://computer.howstuffworks.com/e-mail-messaging/sms.htm

Everything I've read says that's not correct.

Further, folks like Charlie Kirk aren't sitting there blasting out SMS text messages from their phones to his newsletter subscribers. They doing it from a computer using an SMS service provider. Those also have to pass through a SMSC to get routed.

Storage is temporary. And a simple keyword or phrase filter can be executed on a text message synchronously with other operations that take place. I doubt anyone would ever notice the milliseconds of delay, if any.

 

US Gov't already spies on your text messages as well - and the Public doesn't mind - so why not take the next step and go to full on control of all forms of speech .. as we move towards "the Sound of Silence"

 

I hope, thanks to the past 5 years, that more and more people are becoming aware that this is going on.

 

That is not how history goes I am afraid. People in general -all who will generally complain about the Gov't - still maintain inherent trust in the Gov't .. that they are acting in our best interest - is not "Evil".

On this basis they justify to themselves giving power to Gov't that it should not have - power these folks would never give to a Gov't they did not trust.

Adolf did not rise out of a vacuum - and totalitarianism does not happen over night. You give some away here - a little there and soon the right person comes in and takes control. Power corrupts - more power corrupts more - until you get what you asked for.

The people never go "oops" until it is long past too late.

It is not that each individual in Gov't is "Evil" It is not a person running for Congress - but a team - one that requires a well oiled machine - and lots of money. Most succumb to the money - allow themselves to be influenced - and in this way do "a little evil" .. which we forgive them for .. rationalize and justify "No one is perfect" and to be sure - some mistakes we should forgive them for .. but not others.

Since both the Candidate and "The People" don't know the diference between "forgivable and unforgivable" repeat and rinse thousands of times over the years ... and you get a whole lot of Evil.

So while the individividuals are not "Evil' - the system iteself becomes evil - and then at some point the Evil just takes over.

You yourself are guilty of this - most are - hard not to be. You love it when I am railing against Blue Abuses - those "unforgivable" ones.
Not so much when I call out Red abuses.

The Canaries in the Coal mine of Authoritarianism are Screeching - but few can hear - and fewer still listen.

 

Yes, a SMSC is what's used to identity the location of the signal and relay it to its next destination, but data is only stored on the SMSC when your message fails to reach its destination through the control channel's signal. I'll put it to you this way, there is no county in the world who moderates control channel contact in that way, because it's about as feasible as moderating polygraph communication. App to app communication can be moderated in that manner, but even that requires a lot of time and data.



I'll make it easy for you here, if you can name one country that moderates control channel communication similar to a forum or facebook, I will admit I am wrong. Name me one country that does that

 

That's not what the sources say, and it's irrelevant anyway that it stores the message or not. The SMSC has to get the message in order to pass it on. As a part of the routing process, you simply run a filter on the message and if it passes, send it on.

And your video didn't support your contention, either. In fact, it supports mine. SMS messages don't go phone-tower-phone. They go phone-tower-SMSC-tower-phone. Thanks for playing.

I never said there was one that does. That's a straw man you can beat on your own. I'm saying it's not impossible, and actually easy to implement if the carriers wanted to.

 

Ad hominem will always prevail when philosophy falls short.

 

Guess you didn't read the post I was responding to, which was a complete dodge, with its own ad hominem. Thanks. Have anything on topic?

 

Yeah, I was backing up your claim. But yes I do have something to claim. If they sensor text messages or even suggest to do so it proves that they already have the capability of constant view and likely are doing so.

I don’t know what gave democrats a feeling of superiority over all information. I also don’t know why they feel sensor if speech doesn’t breech the right to free speech. The idea of free speech is to keep all interpretations of philosophy open to discussion.

 

It’s not a strawman, it’s relevant to how control channels function, there is no country that moderates a control channel like a forum because it can’t be done. It’s the same reason why the Soviet Union couldn’t stop their citizens from listening to radio from western Europe. When you text, it’s literally your signal going to a tower, and then being redirected to your friend’s phone. The tower picks up the signal, and the SMSC tells it where to go from there. That’s it, there is no Twitter or Facebook like server, it’s just one device’s signal being directed to another

 

No, you've erected a strawman now and are flogging it for all you're worth, lol. I never said they were doing it now.

And you're demonstrably wrong, as I've proven with numerous links, on the technology. Thanks for playing.

 

You're missing the point entirely, the point is there's a reason why no country in the history of civilization has moderated a control channel the way they already moderate app to app communication, and that is because they can't. No one ever said that you said they are already doing that. If there is any noticeable consistency in your arguments, it is your miscomprehension of what you're reading.

You're basing your entire argument on a section of an article that refers to SMSCs data storage, but I'm telling you that SMSCs only stores the message when it fails to reach its destination through the control channel signal, as a "store and forward" technique.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Short_Message_service_center
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Store_and_forward

Furthermore, this store and forward system does not work the same as app to app communication or an internet forum, you cannot apply a filter to SMS communication because it relies a control channel signal, and its data function is very limited relatively speaking.

As I explained in my prior post, you could only filter text messages if you archived every text message before sending it to its desired destination, scanned it, and then converted it back into a radio signal again but this would require far more data than what the SMSC alone is designed for. There are around 10 billion text messages sent in the US alone every day, and the SMSCs are only designed for relaying messages through radio signal. Their data usage is even more limited than a standard phone call, which in itself uses far less data than the servers used for sites like facebook or twitter.

 

Even when the message doesn't fail to send, it passes through the SMSC and for the milliseconds it takes to route the message, it is stored. And can be filtered.

You seem to think that the SMSC's can't be programmed to filter. Sure they can. In fact, some spam filtering already occurs on the SMSCs.

 

That is not accurate, the supposed filters you are referring to do not filter text messages, but rather certain accounts that have been identified as bots are blocked. Furthermore, when the the signal reaches the SMSC, it is only stored as a digital electrical impulse, which then directs the message back out as a radio signal. Again, it's a relay system, it doesn't save the message so much as it maintains the signal and transfers it back out through radio signal.

I'll put it to you this way, in China they filter everything, app to app communication is filtered, and Skype has even admitted that they filter messages for China's servers, but text messages through control channel are one of the few forms of written communication that they do not filter. The reason for this is because the technology does not yet exist. Currently, even when SMSC's do store data, it's only semi-constructed data as a digital electric impulse.

 

Right. And they can just write some software to filter the content. Easy Peasy.

 

They would have to change the whole process of SMSCs to be more than just the transmitting and transferring of signal. Which is much harder to do than simply adding a filter on a communication app

 

Nah. It's just a server. Software changes would be easy.

 

Why are the Democrats not censoring my texts from my wife and only from my girlfriend?

 

Anybody that doesn't immediately and defiantly oppose censorship of private communications in this country is treasonous and should be put out to pasture. How fast people are willing to accept totalitarianism because they are blinded my partisanship is terrifying.

 

Yeah, because it isn't like we haven't seen censorship of conservative ideologies over the last 24 months. Ignorance is bliss!

 

They did it.

https://www.omnicoreagency.com/facebook-statistics/

You don't think the US government has the same capacity as Facebook and Twitter?

 

Remember when learning about Nazi Germany, and being dumbfounded by how all those people could get on board with starting a world war trying to eradicate the world of the non-aryan race? LIke, how did they all drink the koolaid?

Here is is. You're witnessing it.

 

It’s not a server actually.. you clearly do not know what you are talking about, or you’re intentionally being obtuse