BILL MAHER: Comparing Islam to Christianity regarding violence is liberal bull.....

We have Christians killing people and doing horrific things to them, based on Biblical passages.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/18/african-children-denounce_n_324943.html

Regardless, many Christians consider abortion murder, and commit acts of terrorism in the name of Christianity. Other Christians have plotted to murder law enforcement and take over the government.

Same can be said for some Christians. You can't get away from the facts. Two religions, both containing violent passages - commands to kill; both holy books can be interpreted or cherry picked to be violent or peaceful. Deal with it, bigot.

 

???? Never exposed to the bible. were you. “Let any one of you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her.” And the problem with Islam is that its a strict, literal interpretation of the koran that commands the Muslims to "fight", "kill", "slay" and "smite the necks" of the unbelievers "until religion is only for alah". Christianity requires a tortured twisted interpretation to condone killing of another. Islam and christianity are polar opposites of each other.

36 “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?”
37 Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’[a] 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.” .

In contrast to Islam-

Volume 1, Book 2, Number 26: Narrated Abu Huraira:
Allah's Apostle was asked, "What is the best deed?" He replied, "To believe in Allah and His Apostle (Muhammad). The questioner then asked, "What is the next (in goodness)? He replied, "To participate in Jihad (religious fighting) in Allah's Cause."

 

What a joke. Some moonbats in Africa burn a "witch", based in local hokus-pocus, and you equate it to being the equivalent of Jihad by radical Islam.

You are gonna believe what you want to to believe.

 

Such strong opinions regarding matters you know nothing about.

Ephesians 2
15 by abolishing in his flesh the law with its commandments and regulations.

Hebrews 8
13 By calling this covenant "new," he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and aging will soon disappear.

Romans 10
4Christ is the end of the law so that there may be righteousness for everyone who believes.

Romans 7
6But now, by dying to what once bound us, we have been released from the law so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit, and not in the old way of the written code.

2 Corinthians 3
13We are not like Moses, who would put a veil over his face to keep the Israelites from gazing at it while the radiance was fading away. 14But their minds were made dull, for to this day the same veil remains when the old covenant is read. It has not been removed, because only in Christ is it taken away.

Galatians 3 13Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us, for it is written: "Cursed is everyone who is hung on a tree."

23Before this faith came, we were held prisoners by the law, locked up until faith should be revealed. 24So the law was put in charge to lead us to Christ[h] that we might be justified by faith. 25Now that faith has come, we are no longer under the supervision of the law

 

The difference being is that Christians have the New Testament. That differs greatly from the Old Testament. Islam has nothing like that. So Muslims can take verses meant for 2,000 years ago and use them as being relevant today. Not so with the New Testament. True Christians that believe in what Jesus said, would never burn a person for being a witch, stone them for infidelity, or kill them for not following God's law.

 

Well, unfortunately they do. The more peaceful and tolerant Meccan surahs have been abrogated by the more violent and intolerant Medinan surahs.

 

If they do, they are Christians in name only. People can call themselves anything they want. It's what you do that shows what you really are.

 

Meccan and Medinan surahs are from the Koran, not the bible.

 

huh, funny. None of those verses are from Jesus. But this is:

 

Jesus said he did not come to abolish the laws.

Except that there are lots of Muslims who say and believe otherwise. Have you studied Islam, or how exactly do you know whether or not they do? Regardless, it makes no difference. You're using the No True Scotsman fallacy.

 

82, most of these poor souls don't speak from bootstrapped belief but from internalized academic pollution. There are many ideas so stoooopid that can only be acquired through indoctrination. Moral relativism is near the top of the list. It is foundational to a whole host of lies that are pervasive and endlessly drummed into the current generation.

We are doomed.

 

How exactly is it different? Both actions were caused by fundamentalism, were they not?

 

That's a strawman argument. I never said them torturing and murdering supposed witches was the equivalent of Jihad. But I was asked to show Christians stoning people. I'd say torturing and murdering people for supposedly being witches is an equally good example.

You're going to believe whatever you want to believe as well. Nothing any violent Christian does counts because you apply the No True Scotsman fallacy. Christians are perfect and don't do anything wrong, because Jesus said to be perfect! But any time any Muslim does something wrong, all of Islam and Muslims are evil! Talk about a joke.

 

Fundamentalist follow a strict, literal interpretation of the doctrine. Those who torture and twist their interpretation are not.

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I doubt he would say that at all and fully recognizes that many Christians DO NOT follow the doctrine.

 

Pretty sure the Old Testament gives authority to kill witches. Not sure how you can say they are twisting the interpretation.

 

By not including the new testament.

 

There are different interpretations of whether or not the New Testament actually replaces many of the Old Testament's laws. Most morally "evolved" Christians avoid the Old Testament (except the Ten Commandments and the condemnations of homosexuality) like the plague because the laws are simply archaic and evil by our standards. However, those that live in tumultuous areas, and even some people in the United States, want to abide by the Old Testament laws. It wasn't until Paul that people started disregarding the Old Testament laws, and it can be argued very easily that Jesus wanted people to follow them.

Whether or not you want to call that "twisting" of doctrine (I would argue that ALL people do this to match up an ancient set of ethics with modern day ethics), that's your prerogative. Muslims say the exact same thing about the fundamentalists' interpretations of the Koran that you say about fundamentalist Christians.

 

This thread is like Eisenhower and his generals discussing Mein Kampf as their main focus in planning the Invasion of Normandy.

By the way, Ike entitled his book about World War II Crusade in Europe A title like that today would imply he fought for the Nazis. It really shows how much we've gone downhill since "Crusade" was a word to be proud of.

 

Rubbish. One can find isolated examples of anything. But until you find a consistent string of examples, with a common thread, you only have the nonsense that you so desperately want to create a moral equivalency out of.

You can desecrate Jesus in Times Square, and fear nothing of consequence. But try posting a comic strip making fun of Mohammad.

Bill Maher nailed it. And for what are only the most putrid and disgusting reasons, too many liberals cannot bear the fact that the ethical bankruptcy of Islam is what spawned the radical Islamic movement that wants you dead.

 

Are you really serious? Can you not think how you sound? Referring to the Book of Mormans, which was wildly popular on Broadway, answer this per Maher: could you have the Book of Islam on Broadway? Huh? Quick, answer it.

 

Isolated examples?

http://www.religioustolerance.org/abo_viol.htm


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/36075836/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/

http://www.religioustolerance.org/abo_viol.htm

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/national/longterm/abortviolence/stories/gunn.htm

http://www.nytimes.com/1994/08/06/u...violence-escalating-battle-over-abortion.html

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/06/01/AR2009060100612.html

http://www.talk2action.org/story/2007/12/27/132748/78

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/05/31/recent-cases-of-abortionr_n_209528.html

http://www.publiceye.org/ifas/library/militia/foreword.html

http://www.adl.org/extremism/rudolph_backgrounder.asp

http://abcnews.go.com/abcnewsnow/GMANow/story?id=4193128&page=1&page=1

http://foia.fbi.gov/foiaindex/christianidentity.htm

PDF on Christian Identity:
http://foia.fbi.gov/cmovement/cmovement1.pdf

Christian Identity activity (and others)
http://www.adl.org/learn/ext_us/scm.asp?xpicked=4

Alaskan Sovereign Citizen miltia charged with conspiracy to committ kidnapping, murder, and arsony.

http://www.newsminer.com/view/full_...movement?instance=home_news_window_left_top_1

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/03/29/michigan-militia-group-preparing-anti-christ-web-site-says/

 

I have to agree with maher. Radical muslims are violent anti women savages. As maher said no one is threated with death for drawing jebus. Christian radicals are just funny and ignorant.

 

Ephesians 2
15 by abolishing in his flesh the law with its commandments and regulations.

Hebrews 8
13 By calling this covenant "new," he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and aging will soon disappear.

Romans 10
4Christ is the end of the law so that there may be righteousness for everyone who believes.

Romans 7
6But now, by dying to what once bound us, we have been released from the law so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit, and not in the old way of the written code.

2 Corinthians 3
13We are not like Moses, who would put a veil over his face to keep the Israelites from gazing at it while the radiance was fading away. 14But their minds were made dull, for to this day the same veil remains when the old covenant is read. It has not been removed, because only in Christ is it taken away.

Galatians 3 13Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us, for it is written: "Cursed is everyone who is hung on a tree."

23Before this faith came, we were held prisoners by the law, locked up until faith should be revealed. 24So the law was put in charge to lead us to Christ[h] that we might be justified by faith. 25Now that faith has come, we are no longer under the supervision of the law

Unfortunately, its muslims using a literal interpretation of the Koran causing all the problems.

 

While you listed quite a few Christian religious nuts that committed crimes and acts of terror over many years. I think It can be shown that police have arrested many times that number in just a five years.

7/6/2008 USA Jonesboro, GA 1 0 A devout Muslim strangles his 25-year-old daughter in an honor killing.
2/12/2009 USA Buffalo, NY 1 0 The founder of a Muslim TV station beheads his wife in the hallway for seeking a divorce.
4/12/2009 USA Phoenix, AZ 2 0 A man shoots his brother-in-law and another man to death after finding out that they visited a strip club, in contradiction to Islamic values.
6/1/2009 USA Little Rock, AR 1 1 A Muslim shoots a local soldier to death inside a recruiting center explicitly in the name of Allah.
11/2/2009 USA Glendale, AZ 1 1 A woman dies from injuries suffered when her father runs her down with a car for being too 'Westernized.' (10-20-09)
11/5/2009 USA Ft. Hood, TX 13 31 A Muslim psychiatrist guns down thirteen unarmed soldiers while yelling praises to Allah.
12/4/2009 USA Binghamton, NY 1 0 A non-Muslim Islamic studies professor is stabbed to death by a Muslim grad student in revenge for 'persecuted' Muslims.
4/14/2010 USA Marquette Park, IL 5 2 After quarrelling with his wife over Islamic dress, a Muslim convert shoots his family members to 'take them back to Allah' and out of the 'world of sinners'.
4/30/2011 USA Warren, MI 1 0 A 20-year-old woman is shot in the head by her stepfather for not adhering to Islamic practices.
2/7/2013 USA Buena Vista, NJ 2 0 A Muslim targets and beheads two Christian Coptic immigrants.
3/24/2013 USA Ashtabula, OH 1 0 A Muslim convert walks into a church service with a Quran and guns down his Christian father while praising Allah.
4/15/2013 USA Boston, MA 3 170 Foreign-born Muslims describing themselves as 'very religious' detonate two bombs packed with ball bearings at the Boston Marathon, killing three people and causing several more to lose limbs.
4/19/2013 USA Boston, MA 1 1 Jihadists gun down a university police officer sitting in his car.

If you want to, it goes back much farther than 5 years. I just want to show the most recent.

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Pages/AmericanAttacks.htm

 

That doesn't take in the fact that there are many more Christians in this country than Muslims. So it should show that Christian attacks should be much higher.