Black man kicked out of yogurt shop says police and store apologies aren't enough

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  1. ChoppedLiver

    ChoppedLiver Well-Known Member

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    Are you a self-loathing White person?
     
  2. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I trusted your numbers to be accurate.
     
  3. ChoppedLiver

    ChoppedLiver Well-Known Member

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    I made them up.

    But you seem to claim that blacks are more racist than Whites.

    How do you support your numbers...what ever way you actually believe (w/o playing the games you're playing)?
     
  4. VoxEphemeral

    VoxEphemeral Banned

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    LOL!

    I love myself, but us whites haven't done any better than the rest of the tribes........nobody has much to be proud of.

    I don't think this is going to change one bit......when the browns and blacks finally take control they will abuse the power just as bad as whites did.......maybe worse because there will be a revenge factor.
     
  5. Stonewall Jackson

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    No, I just wonder why someone being kicked out of a yogurt shop gets this much attention when a White food delivery driver gets murdered by a gang of your brethren........and it only makes the local news:

    http://www.wtvm.com/2018/11/26/driver-killed-delivering-food-false-address/
     
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    ChoppedLiver Well-Known Member

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    Then quit salivating about the prospect, m'kay?
     
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    ChoppedLiver Well-Known Member

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    Because he's black.
     
  8. VoxEphemeral

    VoxEphemeral Banned

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    Far from salivating.......I see it as a tragic end of a great country.

    But almost inevitable unless white Americans wake up.

    The current border invasion may help......I hope it will.
     
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  9. The Wyrd of Gawd

    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    Why was the Civil Rights Act needed when the Constitution already specified equal rights?
     
  10. Polydectes

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    It wasn't enough
     
  11. The Wyrd of Gawd

    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, no one reads the damn thing anyway.
     
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    You're right saying something multiple times doesn't make it true. You can't throw someone out of a restaurant, privately owned or not, just because you want to do it. If you own a business that accommodates the public, you can't arbitrarily refuse service. The Supreme Court considered the motive of the Baker who refused to make a cake for a same sex couple who were planning to be married. The Court sided with the Baker because his motive for refusing was his religious beliefs.

    In some states, like Arizona, if your reason for kicking a person out is their sexual orientation, you would be violating the law by ejecting them. You would also likely be challenged in Court and lose if you decided to kick a person out because they had a scar on their hand or for other nonsensical reasons. You can kick someone out if they pose a health hazard, smell bad (can fall under health hazard) or pose a threat. You could say that they were being rowdy, or drunk. In this case, you could try to argue that he was making people uncomfortable. The point is that you have to have a good reason.

    The first paragraph of the first article should settle it. If you have a privately owned business that serves the general public, you can't discriminate OR throw people out for any arbitrary reason because you're "King". If you keep going after this you just want to deny reality: https://www.legalmatch.com/law-library/article/restaurants-right-to-refuse-service.html
    https://www.everydayhealth.com/healthy-living/right-refuse-service-discrimination/

     
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  13. arborville

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    Yes ... take a look at this quote from the second article that I posted:

    "if a paying customer brings three non-paying customers and is seated at a four person booth, service cannot be refused. However if the customer brings six non-paying customers, he or she can be refused service because it requires the use of more than the one booth allocated to the paying customer. "

    https://www.everydayhealth.com/healthy-living/right-refuse-service-discrimination/

    It wasn't apparent that the guy was with a group of people who were ordering but one person who is with other people not ordering is not automatically a reason to be kicked out. If they are all in the same booth that would be allocated to one customer, apparently, the non paying customer's seat is covered by the paying customer. It's too bad that he wasn't sitting with them out of respect for their privacy.

     
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    And the fact that there was no other customers there which is significant in this case, If his presence was denying someone a seat then I agree that it would be common decency to either leave the shop and wait outside or join the mother and son.

    I still would love to see the video to confirm or otherwise whether he at anytime spoke to the mother and son
     
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    What crap examples! There was no long lines of people waiting for a seat in the yogurt shop. There was no one in the yogurt shop having their enjoyment of the premises ruined by the presence of Ragland. LOL at you bringing up Democrats

    Then you double up your ignorance of this event by writing "and erred by not informing them his business there and court appointed mission."
     
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  16. Polydectes

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    sure you can if they're trespassing you absolutely can.

    most businesses do not serve the public they serve customers.

    saying that just because the court does something therefore it's correct is a legalistic argument.

    but if you kick someone out for trespassing and they happened to have a sexual orientation, that wouldn't be violation of the law. Because having a sexual orientation does not give you the right to trespass.

    again if they were trespassing you could throw them out.


    what if they are trespassing?

    it's like talking to a brick wall.

    this is business did not serve the public for the love of God why doesn't that sink in? They serve customers.

    you can continue being wrong to your heart's Delight. it will not change the fact that this business but too many others do not serve the public. A fire department serves the public the police department serves the public. A yogurt shop serves customers.

    Meaning if you waltz in to their store sit at a table or take up space that their customers use and you are not a customer you can be removed for whatever reason you have no business there.
     
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    If you are not a customer you have no business there, you have no right to be there. It may be bad practice to throw someone out who's with other customers, but if it's upsetting her other customers it's bad business to let them stay.

    A business is for customers not for people to hang out.
     
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    And yet you still made it up that the women judged him based on the way he looked, period.

    Stop making up facts because you can't prove your BS bogited racist claim.
     
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    Do you understand the word at all? Is your emotional investment so high facts and reality mean nothing?
     
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    You immediately assume he was kicked out for his race with no evidence. Try letting that sink in if you can.
     
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    Trespassing is a violation of the law and a legitimate reason. If they have a right to be served there, how could they be trespassing?

    You are incorrect. This yogurt shop is a restaurant and it falls under the category of a business that serves the public:

    "Generally, a public accommodation is any business that provides services to the public. Title II of the Civil Rights Act defines a public accommodation as any hotels, restaurants, theaters, or any business' whose operations affect commerce.

    Title III of the Americans with Disabilities Acts has an even broader definition of public accommodations. These include:

    • Inns, hotels, and motels,
    • Restaurants and bars
    • Theaters and stadiums
    • Bakery, grocery store, clothing stores, and any sales or rental establishment
    • Laundromats, dry-cleaners, and banks
    • Accountants and lawyers' offices
    • Museums, libraries, and zoos
    This is just a short list of the many private business that are considered to be public accommodations. Essentially, if your business is open to the public, it should be open to all members of the public regardless of race, religion, gender, disability."

    https://blogs.findlaw.com/free_ente...r-private-business-a-public-accomodation.html

    Taking up your own booth without paying would be a legitimate reason, not an arbitrary one, as I said in my last post.

     
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    Nobody has the right to be served there. You don't have the right to other people's service.



    no I'm not they don't provide service to the public. they provide service to the customers you have to pay them for their services.


    You don't get to dictate what's legitimate.
     
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    You write crap. I'm still waiting for you to answer the question "Evidence of coming to what?"

    You keep running away from your own question LOL What a suprise!
     
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    And more crap from you. Point out where I assumed he was kicked out for his race. Do you struggle to understand the basics of the English language
     
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