Black Reparations.

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  1. Matt84

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    You contradicted yourself while trying to sound "smart".
     
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    if you'd have asked, without adding that "it's a myth" imight have been obliged to explain but Ican see you are not interested in a discussion or learning something.
     
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  3. Esau

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    So why are ppl alive today, who are descended from slavers, receiving reparations from the Slave Compensation Act of 1837?
     
  4. Esau

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    You don't know of any such occurrence, is that what you're telling me?
     
  5. Turtledude

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    false accuser. I was born about 100 years after the slave trade ended in the USA
     
  6. Turtledude

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    that's a stupid law too but it makes more sense than giving reparations to people who had the same ethnicity as slaves since it was their own people who sold them into slavery

    English law has no relevance to me. I never would have supported that law either though one can argue it created a valid claim that could be inherited
     
  7. Turtledude

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    none effectively in the USA
     
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    Reparations appears to be founded on a mutated understanding of American tort law-where the primary goal is to put the person who was wronged by the wrongful action of another in the same position they would have been in if the wrongful act had not occurred.

    OK sportsfans-answer me this. can anyone claim that the descendants of slaves-living in the USA, would be in a better position but for the enslavement of their ancestors? If there was no slave trade, captives in intra-African warfare might well have been killed. But compare American blacks with ones living in the areas where slaves were taken from and get back to me
     
  9. Bill Carson

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    If we're calling indentured servants slaves, where can a whitey get his reparations? My namesake came over in 1667 and was indentured.
     
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    Someone who wanted to sound smart would point out what they think is contradictory.
     
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    Do you think any of their behavior has anything to do with how society views them?
     
  12. Cybred

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    Nope, we Americans enslaved people.
     
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    I agree, reparations should be for after slavery was ended.
     
  14. Bill Carson

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    The first slave owner in the British Colonies of North America was a black man. Key words, British and black. Not American nor white.
     
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    no, british settlers were part of the slave trade. africans enslaved africans, and then sold them to others who then brought them to what is now the USA and other countries in the Americas. The most guilty parties are those who caught the Africans and sold them to others. So that is where reparations should start. I owe nothing to anyone who is a slave. Neither do you etc. If you suffer from white guilt feel free to do what you want to do with your money. I am a high net tax payer and have paid millions over the year to the government and lots of that money subsidizes the citizenship benefits of blacks. I don't owe them anything additionally and have paid way more than I should have
     
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    lets discount that for the 52% of murders caused by blacks and billions of dollars of cost imposed on us taxpayers by dealing with black perpetrated violent crime.

    but you seem afraid to answer this question. are blacks currently living in the USA better off here or would they be better off in Africa if their ancestors had never been brutalized by other Africans and sold into slavery?
     
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    One of my grandfathers was descended from French Huguenots who were oppressed by the Papist French government. His ancestors fled to England and ultimately ended up in the USA. Now admittedly he died a very wealthy man since he was an engineering genius and held dozens of machine tool patents developed over his 50+ year career. Would he have been better off but for French oppression? who knows. but everyone of us most likely has an ancestor who was oppressed by someone else at some time. That's why so many people ended up here. German catholics oppressed German Protestants. IN turn German Protestants brutalized Austrian Catholics. Brits oppressed the Scots and the Irish. Vikings looted Scotland-the other side of my family includes those looters who actually liked Scotland and settled there 1200 years ago. and the man with French roots, well his wife had some German jewish blood. don't get me started on that.
     
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    Which doesn't negate the fact that we Americans enslaved people no matter how much you want it to.
     
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    Which doesn't negate the fact that we Americans enslaved people no matter how much you want it to.
     
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    Africa.
     
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    no , people who have been dead for well over a century were part of a system that enslaved others. I have no responsibility for what they did and neither do you. and those who want reparations can not prove they'd be better off if there had been no slavery given what goes on in sub-saharan Africa
     
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    you seem woefully ignorant about the current conditions in sub saharan Africa
     
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    You said paying taxes is sufficient reparations
     
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    their own ppl?

    Smh. The ppl that were taken captive in America for 300 years were Portuguese, not African.
     
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    As things are now with africans having been enslaved, absent that who knows what would have happened.
     

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