Boy Scouts of America files for bankruptcy after sex abuse lawsuits

I would disagree. The accusations and lawsuits came long before that.

 

OK, and how does that address my question?

 

How many? More or fewer than today?

 

Virtually all of the 12,000 cases came before 2016
https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/24/us/boy-scouts-sexual-abuse-allegations/index.html
https://abusedinscouting.com/list-of-confirmed-bsa-abusers/

More than 5000 men were let go between 1947 and 2005
https://www.firstcoastnews.com/arti...ation/77-6b587579-410a-4f37-a9a0-d7f3cb0000b6

All of the above occurred when gay troop leaders were banned and the overwhelming majority happened when gay scouts were banned.

 

Thats the mental gymnastics I cannot understand, virtually all of the sexual abuse was done by male parents in heterosexual relationships — typically married — and identified as heterosexual....

Then they say that people who identify as homosexual are the issue and all the men who are the actual perpetrators are all actual homosexual and this is all gay peoples fault.

The narrative is unintelligible and steered completely by bigotry.

Men who identify as homosexual have a slightly lower chance statistically of harming boys and almost a zero percent chance of harming girls, men who identify as heterosexual are the entirety of abusers against girls and over represented against boys (excluding men who have no adult sexual attraction).

You won’t get an answer from @sec

 

This gives some information.

https://www.wcnc.com/article/news/i...inas/275-03cdb403-f816-4955-b9ae-809e11fc1097

 

ialready know. credit for sticking with this disturbing discussion. salut.

 

Thanks. This establishes that there were 500 or more incidents of child molestation among scout leaders but it doesn't answer the question. What percentage occurred after the rules change about gays?

 

Thanks. It disagrees with the earlier post in terms of numbers but it does answer the question. I think Boy Scouts was a valuable experience for boys. Too bad the bad apples had to ruin it for the rest.

 

"men who identify as homosexual"

Boy, i bet that gave great comfort to the little boys as grown men were forcing gay sex upon them`

male/male sex=gay sex

 

You still didn’t answer the question and you will continue to run from it because it demolishes your argument
If gay men were banned from scouting how many instances of child abuse would have been averted that were committed by married family men?

Your hatred of gay people blinds you to the simple truth, the line between homosexuality and heterosexuality are blurry (and way above what is reported), the overwhelming majority of abuse against prepubescent boys is committed by men who are married and typically have children of their own, bans of homosexuals to “protect the children” do nothing but target a demographic that you don’t like.

 

People that harm children should be executed — full stop.

 

Yeah they probably date back to the 50s. The bankruptcy just happened after religious group left and took with it 400k members.

 

Okay, let's say 500 people were the victim of sexual assault between the years 1985 and 1995.

And let's say there is a law stating if you want to pursue civil litigation against the people who made this environment, you have to do it within three years.

If the law stating you have to do it within three years work to be changed to indefinitely, those 500 people would now be allowed to pursue litigation where they weren't before.

 

Well I'm not sure if @sec is a propagandist or trying to lie to himself.

But I would be willing to go out on the limb and say that men who molest boys are at least bisexual.

So to blame that all strictly on the one to 2% of men who are openly gay is dishonest, and he knows it is.

 

I understand. Not the issue under discussion. The issue was when the molestations occurred not when lawsuits occurred.

 

I don't disagree. I'm a believer in capital punishment. I feel the same way about human trafficking.

 

No, the defining factor is availability. If these same pedophiles had been put in charge of young girls, they would have molested them also.

 

just because someone points out the obvious to you and addresses your incorrect assumptions does not mean that one hates a person because they engage in sex differently than most folks

 

They could have occurred over a span of probably about 30 years.

 

Your dishonesty knows no ends.

the predators in your statistics aren't counted as gay people or bisexual people so therefore they don't count in the percentage of gay and bisexual people.

 

You or one of your brethren bringing homosexuals — and why they should be banned from various events — into every thread that involves pedophilia even though the overwhelming majority is done by heterosexual men agains girls and men that identify as heterosexual against boys shows otherwise.

What would banning men who are homosexual prevent in this situation? A: Nothing, because the men doing these disgusting acts would not be caught by the ban — only (statistically) men with a lower chance would be harmed by your policy.

That is where the bigotry enters

 

it's called profiling and is done all of the time. When the pedophilia is homosexual, you stop homosexuals from being scout leaders. The issue here is that engaging in gay-sex is a choice and you cannot tell that a person lives that chosen lifestyle. You simply have to go by anecdotal and visual evidence such as seeing a guy exchanging spit with another guy. In that case, since the pedophilia is homosexual, you wouldn't allow the man you saw french kissing another to be involved with scouts.

 

are you saying that male/male sex is NOT gay sex?

 

So they say. But the question is how many before Boy Scouts welcomed gay leaders and how many after. Nobody wants to answer it.