Breaking: Postal Service data shows poor mail-in ballot delivery rate...

the right doesn't want to count those

 

It wasn't a party. it was the postmaster general preceding the current one. He said the sorting machines were not needed.

 

They ALL go thru the EXACT same process. And no military ballots are not “vetted in advance” any more than yours and mine are.

 

The preceding PMG was a woman (Megan Brennan). You are correct that this was part of a long term plan, yet many of them were removed recently, even knowing that their would be an influx of absentee ballots during covid.

I agree that this was a loving term plan, but Stevie Wonder could see that we were going to need them as far back as March. They should have stopped the removal process then

 

As you both probably know, America is not a pure democracy, in which every decision is brought before the populace for a vote. We are a democratic Republic, in which we vote to choose which people we will give the authority to act on our behalf, making the decisions which are within their statutory purview. There is an elected official, in every state, who is in charge of running elections. It is that person's JOB, among other things, to decide how to run that state's elections. This official is not the same in all states.

The following material from the NCSL (National Conference of State Legislatures) should help you to know who, specifically, to blame for any charges you wish to level; but as a quick spoiler, this Presidential election was run the same way we've handled our response to the Covid-19 pandemic: no ONE PERSON, or single group, can be said to have addressed this, nationally, as principally their own responsibility.

https://www.ncsl.org/research/elect...ation-at-state-and-local-levels.aspx#Overview

Election Administration at the State Level
Each state has a chief election official who has ultimate authority over elections in the state.

• 24 states have an elected secretary of state as the chief election official—Alabama, Arizona, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Idaho, Iowa, Kansas, Louisiana, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Mexico, North Dakota, Ohio, Oregon, South Dakota, Vermont, Washington and Wyoming.
• Two states—Alaska and Utah—have an elected lieutenant governor as the chief election official.
• Three states—Maine, New Hampshire and Tennessee—have a chief election official selected by the legislature.
• Five states—Delaware, Florida, New Jersey, Pennsylvania and Texas—have a chief election official appointed by the governor. In all but Delaware, the chief election official is called the secretary of state; in Delaware the position is Commissioner of Elections.
• Nine states—Hawaii, Illinois, Maryland, North Carolina, New York, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Virginia and Wisconsin—have a board or a commission that oversees elections. Appointments to these commissions are usually made by the governor, and confirmed by the Senate. They are most often structured so as to be bipartisan, with a certain number of members from each of the major political parties.
• Seven states—Arkansas, Georgia, Indiana, Kentucky, Rhode Island and West Virginia—use a combination of a chief election official and a board or commission.

Duties of the chief election official or election board/commission vary. Secretaries of state have other duties in addition to the management of elections. For example, they may administer business filings and licensing in the state, and act as the keeper of the state seal. Enforcing campaign finance regulations may fall to a secretary of state or state elections board in some cases, and in others would fall to a separate ethics commission.

When there is both an elected individual and a board or commission charged with elections, the division of duties varies. Rhode Island is one example of shared responsibilities. There, the secretary of state’s office is in charge of ballot design, layout and coding; sending out mail ballots; certifying candidates; and overseeing procurement for voting equipment. The state board of elections packages equipment, supplies and precinct tabulators and delivers them to each city/town before the election; troubleshoots technical issues on Election Day; and receives and tabulates statewide results.

Regardless of who the chief election official is, there are some duties that fall to the state office of elections. These include: ensuring that election laws are followed by local officials statewide; administration of a statewide voter registration database required by HAVA; assisting local election officials by providing training courses or materials on running elections in the state; and providing a process for testing and certifying voting equipment for use in the state. Some state offices provide certification programs for local election officials on election procedures and may also help pay for certain types of elections, or a portion of expenses.

 

Why is it unbelievable? A payment I mailed in march still has not arrived at its destination or been returned to me.

 

They should have ignored the urge to mail millions of unsolicited ballots back in March.

 

What “urge”. They are state mandated in most states. And all of those states have security measures in place to manage fraud specifically related to absentee votes based on the laws passed to send them in the first place

 

I'm not talking about absentee ballots. I'm talking about the wholesale mailing of ballots that were not requested. Security measures? Maybe. Who knows?

 

Those we mandated by the state legislatures and every one of them had the very same security measures as the “absentee” ballots they have sent to their state citizens serving in the military for YEARS.

All due respect FMW, why all the sudden are they “suspect”, when they weren’t last year when they went to military only?

 

I have more respect for U.S. military than vote harvesters. I'm a vet myself.

 

Biden should sue.
Since the post office was ordered to sweep for undelivered ballots before election day it's a sure winner.
Extend counting of ballots delivered a few days after election day.
You go Joe.

 

It was said, weeks if not months in advance that the USPS would not be able to handle this(and it wasn't.) They're underpaid, they're understaffed and have been for YEARS. And we thought they were going to be able to deliver MILLIONS of ballots?

Seriously?

You were better off, making this a completely digital election and counting the votes on a secure .gov website. Make it a function that after a person votes, they automatically get logged out not to be able to visit the site again.

That way, one person, one vote. No rigging, no nothing. Get them a certificate of proof of their vote and walla. Free and fair election.

 

Show your proof that there was "vote harvesting" ?

The process is the very same for both vets and absentee ballots. So if it's acceptable for the Military, shouldn't it be the same for absentee ?

 

Vote harvesting is legal in CA

 

What "rules" changed ?

 

Which is EXACTLY what happened with the other absentee ballots. Why do you think it took so long ? They ALL get vetted thru the very same process.

 

Request denied.

Absentee votes are requested, not mailed out wholesale.

 

So you have no proof, but you keep making the claim. Thats called propaganda

They were sent by law in states where their legislatures mandated it by law. Your making allegations you can't back up, so now you are trying guilt by association ?

"they sent ballots, so there must be fraud".....Is that seriously your position ?

 

Incorrect. No one was forced to vote by mail. They could always throw it away and vote in person.

 

All ballots are vetted in advance. You must be registered to vote to get one by mail or in person. That's the vetting. There's more vetting of the ballot itself after the fact too.

 

Like thousands of ballots with the birthday 01/01/1900? Those voters would be 120 years old.

 

Mail in ballots were forced.

 

Thousands of votes had the birthday of 01/01/1900. I never knew there were that many 120 year olds out there.

 

You didn't have to use them. I got a mail in ballot. I used it. I could have tossed it and voted in person. No forcing me on how to vote.