BREAKING: Trump’s First Legislative Effort Fails as G.O.P. Pulls Bill to Repeal Obamacare

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  1. freakonature

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    Ummm...no. This bill was not good. In the future, the establishment will need to respect the conservative wing of the party and actually listen to their requests. The conservative wing has fueled the dramatic rise of the Republican party over the last 7 years.
     
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    If you make a horrendous mistake and I don't fix it for you, is it my fault? lol
     
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    No unlike you I put the blame where it belongs. As the majority of Repus were about doing the Right thing. Just that 36 of them didn't. Neo Cons/Demo Wannabes.
     
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    ^ Witness, all.

    How some in the GOP own up to failure and take responsibility when they own all branches of government, and fail miserably.

    Is it not a thing to behold?
     
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    ...and the reverb.
     
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    Yes, the Reps failed to fix the Dem failure. Obamacare is your health care. How's that working out for you? lol
     
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    Yes this bill was good......and the Freedom Caucus didn't respect the Real Conservative wing of the party. Here is why.


    Why AMAC Supports the House Plan to Repeal and Replace Obamacare


    As a first step, the AHCA lays the necessary foundation for more robust and necessary changes to repeal Obamacare in its entirety.During our conversations with Freedom Caucus Republicans, House Leadership, the Department of Health and Human Services, and the Trump Administration, AMAC has chosen to support the AHCA for the following reasons:


    Obamacare is unsustainable


    Elimination of the individual and employer mandates imposed by the Federal Government


    Expanded use of Health Savings Accounts (HSA)


    It protects those who had no choice but to get on an Obamacare Exchange


    It’s a first step


    Conclusion


    Seniors have worked to take their country back and to ensure they leave a better, more prosperous future for their children, grandchildren, and great-grandchildren. This first step in repealing and replacing Obamacare isn’t about a single bill—it’s about returning power to the states, shrinking the federal government, and putting health care decisions back into the hands of the patients.


    Just as seniors have done in the past, if this process does not lead to the results we want—well, our track-record is pretty strong. We’ll hold our elected leaders accountable at the ballot box.....snip~


    http://onenationhealth.org/2017/03/...e-house-plan-to-repeal-and-replace-obamacare/

    Say Ta Ta.....goodbye.....C-ya, wouldn't want to be ya. To half the Freedom Caucus. We will dance on your early graves. Best go with cremation.
     
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    Reality.....that which you can't handle.
     
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    Conservative Groups Endorse AHCA in Open Letter to Congress

    This morning, 12 key conservative groups penned an open letter to Congress in support of the American Health Care Act. They wrote:
    “On behalf of our organizations, representing millions of Americans from across the country, we write in support of the American Health Care Act (AHCA). As advocates of free market principles and limited government, we endorse this significant legislation that would take the first major step toward repealing the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, better known as Obamacare. In its place, it would create a more market-oriented health care system that prioritizes liberty, consumer choice, and innovation over Obamacare’s government mandates.
    The letter was signed by:
    • National Taxpayers Union
    • Americans for Tax Reform
    • Association of Mature American Citizens
    • Center of the American Experiment
    • Citizens Against Government Waste
    • Independent Women’s Voice
    • Institute for Liberty
    • Log Cabin Republicans
    • Market Institute
    • Obamacare Repeal Coalition
    • Six Degrees Project
    • Small Business and Entrepreneurship Counsel......snip~

    http://onenationhealth.org/2017/03/1...r-to-congress/


    Like I said.....the COCH Bros.....wont be able to save those Freedom Caucus Members.
     
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    Pretty damn good. Works dandy for me, and all I know. And the majority of Americans.

    How's it feel today to be Trumpwinning so much you can't stand it?
     
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    The Dems now own Obamacare 100%. While that may benefit the Republicans politically when it collapses it is not good for the economy or the people.
     
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    CBO even said BO peep care never reached their mark with enrollments. The Majority of the BO care exchanges have failed. The young balked at paying for Seniors.


    There goes your excuse about a majority. Up in smoke and not part of reality.
     
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    Dems own it. Hold on. :)
     
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    I just heard the Democrats have sabotaged Don's plan to scrap Obamacare, whose side are they on?
    As a Brit can PF members tell me if Obamacare is a good thing or isn't it?
     
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    Post 37 will give you a clue. Just sayin.

    Oh and it wasn't the Democrats.....it was the Freedom Caucus/NeoCons. Wannabe Democrats.
     
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    When did they do that?
     
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    It was never "good," and by all accounts is about to become unbearable. It's been so long since Democrats had a win, this seems like victory to them. Obamacare is America's health care, and they won't forget it.
     
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    Sorry losers and haters, but my I.Q. is one of the highest -and you all know it! Please don't feel so stupid or insecure,it's not your fault.
     
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    What Democrats tried to take credit for the Freedom Caucus derailing Trumpcare?
     
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    Ryan says he's the one who pulled the bill, but it doesn't make much difference does it. The bill was not going to pass. Now the finger pointing has started and the Capital Building looks like the gunfight at the OK Korral. I don't blame Trump or Ryan for the failure. I blame the people who voted against it. If Trump and Ryan had their way the bill would have passed. Now O-Care is still the law of the land which means the disease caused by its frailties will fester and grow. It's too bad, it will end up costing us a bundle.
     
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    Today at 4.53pm EST. So no.....you wont be able to come in with any save for them.




    Sorry Dems: The Freedom Caucus, not you, defeated the Republican healthcare bill


    In the immediate aftermath of Republicans' decision to pull their healthcare legislation from a scheduled floor vote in the House of Representatives on Friday afternoon, congressional Democrats immediately, and falsely, claimed credit for the bill's failure.


    Within minutes of each other, many Democratic members posted tweets to thank people for pushing back against the bill, inaccurately implying that Republicans pulled the legislation because ideological opponents called to oppose it.

    Rep. Mike Thompson, D-Calif., wrote, "Your calls, emails, & letters worked. Speaking out at town halls worked. The GOP pulled their bad bill b/c you spoke out. We can't stop now!"

    "Your energy and passion made all the difference — together we were able to #KillTheBill & defeat #TrumpCare. Stay loud," said Rep. Eric Swalwell, D-Calif.

    Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand, D-N.Y., remarked, "This is because of people like you raising your voices, making yourselves heard, and rising up to own our democracy."

    Rep. Elizabeth Esty, D-Conn., echoed Gillibrand's sentiments, tweeting, "Thank you to the thousands of people who called, emailed & made in-person visits to Congress. What a difference your voices made."

    Sen. Kamala Harris, D-Calif., explicitly declared, "While this fight is far from over, today affirms that your voice matters."

    Many additional Democrats made the same claims on social media and in press statements......snip~


    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/s...he-republican-healthcare-bill/article/2618400
     
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    Those named in post 46.....but don't worry they got slapped down real quick like. Think of it as a backhand.
     
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    The majority of Repubs voted for it....36 Freedom Caucus members didn't. Suffice to say, Half wont be retuning to the House in 2018. Had their shot and completely missed the target. They wont be allowed another.

    Nor will they be a problem in the future. They just screwed over small business and the real conservatives with the money.
     
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    Yes from where I'm standing it looks like the Dems sabotaged the Bill simply out of spite to thwart Don, how bloody childish!
     
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