BREAKING: Trump Sets The Record Straight After Leftists Accuse Him Of Wanting To “Terminate” The Con

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  1. DEFinning

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    Well what percentage of Republicans, are you considering "conservative elites?" I had only been pointing out that 35% is probably not going to be enough to win a Primary-- definitely not, if everyone else consolidated behind a single challenger. But I obviously have to concede, that Trump is the favorite, at this point; though, of course, he's the only one, so far, who's announced running.

    Still, I guess all the positive, Republican member chatter here, supportive of DeSantis, and saying that it's time for Trump to step aside, has somewhat skewed my view: I just heard, today, that Trump is still seen positively, by 80% of Republicans.
     
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    Nice try. The sentence is complete as written and is clear what "permits'" what. is
     
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    For it to be “clear” only the most extreme trumpatriots seem to be able to decipher it. All middle ground, moderate Republicans and everyone left of center seem to be reading it differently.

    Guess who also said this:
    "I love the poorly educated!"

    Let me guess, he actually meant people that were in progress of obtaining their masters in neuropsychology but hadn’t quite made it yet.

    LOL you people
     
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    Very close, spot on in fact.
    He want to terminate based on His BIG LIE. A fraud to the American people.
     
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    creative but stupid.
     
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    I'm curious ""but again he has never offered definitive evidence BUT his supporters eat it up.""

    exactly why is it Trump job to do a criminal investigation into federal election fraud.. crimes are investigated by the DOJ and evidence is secured...... evidence of the election fraud is the DOJ's job.... not Trump's... and please tell me where the evidence of voter fraud is physically located..... it is in possession of and locked up by the very people who are accused of the election fraud...
    oh.... and by the way.... election document and such are only kept for 22 months.... so they are not available now anyway..
     
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    Where does Trump say he doesn't want to terminate the constitution?
     
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    Pathetic deflective dodge.... Par for your course..... Put putt....
     
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    Where does he say he does? I don't mean him referring to a particular aspect of it I mean the entire thing like you people are trying to represent it..
     
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    Let us know if you are capable of participating

    Or dodge some more.
     
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    Trump got them good, real good.


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    The problem was he was unable to even convince his DOJ that a investigation was warranted. Barr, Trump's AG at the time, said he answered all of Trump's allegations. He also declare the U.S. Justice Department has uncovered no evidence of widespread voter fraud that could change the outcome of the 2020 election. Trump's replacement for Barr, Jeffrey Rosen, said he told Trump that he would not allow the Justice Department to do anything to give validity to false claims of election fraud. The Cyber Ninja audit turned up nothing except more votes for Biden. All of the court cases and lawyers turned up nothing. Yet in his most recent post on Truth Social he said "Only FOOLS would disagree with that and accept STOLEN ELECTIONS." So why does the person who surrounds himself with the best people choose two AGs that are FOOLS?


    https://apnews.com/article/barr-no-widespread-election-fraud-b1f1488796c9a98c4b1a9061a6c7f49d

    https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/january-6-hearings-june-23/h_15c70dc78d5c15b685c432d69f64cef8
     
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    I don't see anywhere Trump denying he wants to terminate the constitution. Article title is misleading because he isn't settling any record straight.
     
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    So I would ask the Trumpets, if hiding a story that might reflect bad on a candidate such as happened with Hunter Biden is grounds
    to change an election - then shouldn't we revisit the 2016 election after we found out that The National Enquirer buried the story about
    Trump banging porn stars while Melania was nursing her newborn son .... Hillary only needed a few votes in key states to have beaten
    Trump, and that was all that was needed ...

    No?

    Well, then I don't give a flying **** about the whiney-ass crap coming from Trump.

    Is what it is. Trump lost because people hated him more than Biden, not because of Hunter's laptop.
     
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    I think the percentage of conservative elites is small because of the way we are using them in this discussion. We referring to the corporate leaders in media or conservatives that have attained high positions in the republican party like Barr and McMaster, etc... They are either outspoken against Trump or using the power, as you gave and example of Murdoch, to shift the support to someone like DeSantis.

    I would not underestimate the power of the 35%. Remember primaries only attract a small percentage of the voting population. Hardcore supporters are much more likely to vote in a primary than a casual voter so 35% couple with a large primary field could easily lead to victory. I still do not expect a large field in the Republican primary. I think Trump will still be viewed as an incumbent and many would choose not to oppose him.

    I am not sure the republicans on this forum are a good indicator of the republican electorate. People who take the time to visit and discuss politics are probably better informed than the majority of voters. I used to think we had extreme members but if you compare to what you read on subreddits and other forms of social media it is mild.
     
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    When your best argument, is that your guy didn't say that we should throw away the whole Constitution, he only wants to toss out part of it-- it's time to call it a day.
     
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    Good point. Though, is the % of either Party that votes in a Presidential Primary, seems not as much smaller than for other offices. The average, overall primary turnout, was fairly recently, 27%, with the election turnout around 60% (so about 45%). But the turnout percentage of eligible voters for Presidential Primaries, in the link, below (by state) seemed in the upper 30s or even low 40s, so 3/5 to even 2/3 of the election turnout.

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/1102189/voter-turnout-us-presidential-primaries-state/
     
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    Exactly. Trump's an idiot but he never said that he wanted to terminate the Constitution. He was implying that the left is doing that by holding fraudulent elections. It's another one of those gifts that the left loves to dish out. Like seeing Russia from her house or drinking bleach.
     
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    I honestly got to ask Republicans.
    Is Trump the hill you're really wanting to be buried on?
    Is there really only one human being who can lead the Republican Party?
    Cause if you really believe that, then it is a cult of personality, not a political party.
     
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    While I don't really agree with him..... You people and your ilk have been trying to throw out the Constitution for decades....


    Sounds like you guys should support what he says
     
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    Look, I hate Trump as well, but the Left wing media distorted what he said and the sheep bought it hook, line and sinker. Perfect example is the sheep here flipping out. Face it, man, you are a slave to mass media. You are the exact perfect target for Left Wing news feeds as they know you will run with it. They count on you believing whatever crap they peddle. There are those on the right that do the same thing about Biden as well.

    The Left Wing Wacko Politicians question the validity of the Constitution every day including Biden regarding Amendment 2, so Trump has the right to question it as well. He in no way or form mentioned anything about abolishing the Constitution but attacked some of its rules just like the Left does every single freaking day. Your post is like the Pot calling the Kettle Black whenever it suits your personal bias.

    I look at everything with skepticism instead of flipping out every time MSM news source tells me too.
     
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    The lying Cry Baby Loser's weasel words are being exposed, by Fox News, among many others:

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    On cable news yesterday, there were lots of banners about something that exploded over the weekend: "TRUMP CALLS FOR CONSTITUTION TO BE TERMINATED."

    When I first saw similar headlines online, I assumed it must be liberal spin, something taken out of context to make that accusation.

    Uh, no. That’s what he posted on Truth Social.
    The impetus for Trump’s demand was the Twitter Files, which Elon Musk released, through journalist Matt Taibbi, on the outrage of the social media site suppressing the Hunter Biden laptop story at the end of the 2020 campaign.

    The files also show that Twitter acted on its own, not in response to a request from the Biden campaign... Taibbi flatly said there was no evidence of government involvement.

    Still, Trump used this to advance his two-year-old crusade to show, without evidence, that the election was stolen from him.

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    "A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the
    termination of all rules, regulations, and articles,
    even those found in the Constitution!"

    The Founding Father approved a Constitution that contains no provision
    for do-overs or evicting a sitting president if a Cry Baby Loser whines.
    ...Trump didn’t fudge or imply; he explicitly said "termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution."

    This is not a leak from a meeting or liberals saying the ex-president has no respect for the Constitution. These are Trump’s own words.

    Trying to dig out from an avalanche of coverage, Trump... blamed the media.

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    "The Fake News is actually trying to convince the American People
    that I said I wanted to ‘terminate’ the Constitution.
    This is simply more DISINFORMATION & LIES, just like RUSSIA, RUSSIA, RUSSIA,
    and all of their other HOAXES & SCAMS."

    ... with his own phrasing on social media, Trump has given credence to those who have long argued he didn’t care about our nearly 250-year-old governing document. He did, after all, take an inaugural oath "to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

    [https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opin...ent-or-do-over-has-set-off-alarms/ar-AA14X6Va]
     
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    He said what he said. The Cry Baby Loser and his lickspittles then tried to distort what he had said.

    Not all Republicans are going along with his pretending that he did not say what he said or try hiding from it:

    What they're saying: Several influential GOP figures have criticized Trump in since he made the comments. "As elected officials, we take an oath to support and defend the Constitution," Republican Sen. Mike Rounds (S.D.) tweeted on Monday.
    • "We should never dishonor that oath," he said. "No one is above the Constitution. Anyone who desires to lead our country must commit to protecting the Constitution. They should not threaten to terminate it."
    • Rounds added that "there is no evidence of widespread voter fraud that would alter the results of the 2020 election."
    • Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska) also condemned Trump's comments on Twitter. "Suggesting the termination of the Constitution is not only a betrayal of our Oath of Office, it’s an affront to our Republic," she tweeted on Sunday night.
    • Former Vice President Mike Pence spoke out as well, telling WVOC radio in Columbia, S.C.: “Everyone that serves in public office, everyone that aspires to serve or to serve again, should make it clear that we will support and defend the Constitution of the United States."
    • Pence also said that he believes "by God's grace" he was able to defend the Constitution "not only my tenure as vice president but in those tumultuous days at the end," referring to Trump's final days in office and efforts to overturn the 2020 election results.
    Meanwhile, vocal anti-Trump Republicans had even harsher words for the former president. "No honest person can now deny that Trump is an enemy of the Constitution," Rep. Liz Cheney (R-Wyo.) tweeted Sunday.
    • "With the former President calling to throw aside the constitution, not a single conservative can legitimately support him, and not a single supporter can be called a conservative," Rep. Adam Kinzinger (R-Ill.) tweeted.
    • "This is insane. Trump hates the constitution," he added.
    Separately, some congressional Republicans who appeared on Sunday news shows denounced Trump's claims, with Rep. Mike Turner (R-OH) telling CBS' "Face the Nation" that the former president's remarks were "certainly not consistent with the oath we all take."
      • "I vehemently disagree with the statement that Trump has made," Turner added.
      • Rep.-elect Mike Lawler (R-N.Y.) told CNN's "State of the Union" that he "obviously" disagrees with Trump's comments.
      • "The Constitution is set for a reason, to protect the rights of every American," Lawler said. "So I certainly don't endorse that language or that sentiment."
    • [https://www.axios.com/2022/12/04/trump-suspend-constitution-democrats-gop]

     
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    Democrats question every single election, so this is just Left Wing wackos flipping out.

    And, any moron that is sheeped into believing this:

    "A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the
    termination of all rules, regulations, and articles,
    even those found in the Constitution!"

    as Trump stating the abolishment of the Constitution has zero clue and is just so in love with Trumpism hatred that they cannot deduce fact from fiction as they are sold in their mind to whatever MSM tells them to believe.

    He is stating that if there is Fraud perpetrated by the Democrats, that would terminate the rules, regulations and articles of the constitution.

    Any moron who would believe MSM news disinformation over the actual words without understanding them is a complete and total sheep who just reads news headlines and flips out.
     
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