Busting the myth of a "social contract"

Sorry friend, Joe Blow never agreed, and the contract was 231 years ago and everyone who agreed to it is long dead.

 

Proven false

 

I disagree, but I will leave it to the other forum members to determine whether it's been proven false.

 

Your agreement has no bearing on the facts. And the facts are it’s been proven false.

 

231 years ago was a long time. Anyone who made a contract then is long dead and gone.

 

Since you can't explain what I'm missing, you're a nothing burger.

 

Asked and answered.

 

You’re still alive. And party to the contract.

 

I’m not your mother.

 

Oh, I forgot to tell you. I wrote a contract yesterday, and you're a party to it. It says you have to give me $1,000,000 tomorrow.

 

Now you’re just being silly, because you were proven wrong.

 

So we wrote this contract. And you're a party to it. So send me money.

 

There is no such thing as a "social contract" that one must honor and one is bound to from birth, without explicit consent and under threat of incarceration or worse, merely because one is born. That is known as slavery. That said there is a Constitution because this is supposed to be a Constitutional Republic, one guaranteed by the Constitution itself, a contract the US government is bound by but is unfortunately unenforceable. It's unenforceable because there is no practical provision in the Constitution to enforce it on the US government. The founders created a defective product. True there is a provision within it to fix it, called the Amendment process.

(see post #37)
http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/proposed-constitutional-amendments.507699/page-2

But that power is mostly in the hands of government, which will never fix it. As such it has morphed into a CONstitution and we no longer have a Constitutional Republic and haven't had one since 1803 (Marbury v Madison). So if you believe you are bound by a social contract called the CONstitution, you are consenting to slavery. Our founding document, the Declaration of Independence educates you otherwise and rightly so. The very reason why our founding fathers revolted is because they did not believe in any mythical "social contract" that their government enforced on them under threat of incarceration or worse. Our founding document tells us that the primary purpose of a government is to secure individual rights. And when it no longer serves that purpose, it is no longer a government, it is then a rogue entity that must be changed or it will enslave you. And this is exactly what we've had since 1803. Today we have a pretend government that violates our individual rights regularly in many ways and under color of law. A government that perpetrates war crimes for profit and taxes its citizens far in excess of what our founders experienced in order to pay for that murderous war machine and for many other racketeering enterprises.

That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government...

when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security...

Social contract? Hardly.

"Everything Hitler did was legal." - Martin Luther King Jr.

 

Wrong, your fallacy and fabrications have been proven to untruthful in detail in this thread. You lost this debate days ago. give up, go away.

 

Very well said Sir! It is nice to see posts from people who are actually well educated in the subjects they comment on.
Keep Posting!

 

Now you’re just being silly, because you were proven wrong.

 

I am in no way wrong. It's why you pay your taxes, as your part of the contract, in exchange for the rights and freedoms you enjoy.

yes, in the mind of 3 libertarians. Back here in reality though, we all know the social contract is the US constitution, and we all know you, along with everyone else on US soil, who is a citizen, agreed to it.

I won the very first day I posted in this thread.

 

rahl, it's nice to see someone who believes in themselves, no matter how wrong they may be.

 

But as you know, I am not wrong. It's why you have been and will continue paying your taxes. You know the contract you agreed to requires it. You like the freedom and privileges the contract entitles you to, which is why you don't breach the contract.

 

You are factually incorrect, unable to provide support to your beliefs, and while you may whole-heartedly believe what you say, the truth will someday come to you.

Why I pay taxes has nothing to do with your theoretical contract. Maybe you need to believe in it, to justify your belief that you were obligated. May I recommend searching back and finding a video on Harry Reid, and his statement about paying taxes. Yes, Harry Reid.

 

you know all of this is false.

nobody is talking about a theoretical contract. We are talking about the contract you have agreed to, which is why you pay your taxes.

it's not a matter of belief. It's a demonstrable legal fact.

no

 

This could go on forever... you know for a fact that what you are claiming is not been supported by a single thing you have posted. I will give you a small hint. DATES MATTER.
If you can't figure it out from there, then there truly is no hope for you.

 

you of course are fully aware that this statement is completely false.

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Dates have no relevance to the fact you are party to the contract between citizens and the government.

You can continue believing the whacky things you believe. While you do that, you will go right on paying your taxes, as required of you by the contract that exists between you and the government.

 

You've become a pestilence at this point, and apparently you are unable to admit defeat gracefully.

Your premise is wrong, the facts belie you, and you have not supplied a bloody thing to support your statements.

Ta ta!