CA Banning School Suspensions for ‘Willful Defiance’

That's what he needs to believe.

 

Just put them in separate classrooms. I personally tutored problem kids who were in high school. This was an alternative to having them in classrooms.

Hardly. It's a reward. Now they can go party with their buddies instead; or play video games, or watch porn and masturbate all day [like so many young men do now]. And they may well never return to school. Most families have two working parents and no one to monitor the kid's activities at home during the day.

 

Except for when the whiners claim that is the schools fault, then nothing.

 

I've been teaching for 20 years. It works for about 90% of the kids. The other 10% get classified as "tier 2's" (in the behavior scheme we use). Tier 2's need a lot of counseling, so we have the school counselor for that. And they also respond somewhat well to positive reinforcement, so you can work with them.

Occasionally, a tier 2 turns into a tier 3 and we expel those (or encourage the parents to put them on independent study).

 

So you get to stay in school and continue your bad behavior. Only in California.

 

Some of our parents get high with their own kids. Even after teaching where I'm at for as long as I have (and it's a rough area), I still found that incredible, when my principal told me.

 

That's what campus security is for. What, do you think a kid tears up the room and we just sit there? We have resources. They're never enough, but they're there. And at any time, I can suspend any of my kids for a laundry list of reasons. This is called a "teacher suspension" and administrators hate it when you do it, because they have to find a place for the kid for two days, but it's our right as teachers in the education code. Except, you can't suspend kids below 4th grade for defiance. But you shouldn't be suspending little kids for anything non-violent anyway. Not if you're any good at the job.

 

Yes, at this point they are failures. If you can't see this, the problem is yours. They continue to ignore what the trouble makers are doing and reward them with zero punishment.

So far, the only false arguments on display are those that you insist on using. And failing to convince anyone to agree with your views. Warped as they are.

 

This is patently false and has been repeatedly pointed out to you: there are other punishments besides suspensions. I assume you've been through some education system, so you must remember all the various ways teachers have of punishing students.

 

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5 posts later you still haven’t backed up what you claimed. I didn’t make a claim

 

You call a soldier killing an enemy in battle murder?

 

Three things.

According to this law, you can't suspend any kid for your laundry list of reasons. That is now banned.

If this teacher suspension is anything more than detention, it is obviously not working, hence the feeling of need for this type of law.

Third, apparently most are not any good at their job if they can't control the kids in their class or be allowed to remove those kids.

 

It is the truth. Also, kids have ways of punishing teachers who try to control the out of control little s***s. The methods you suggest obviously do not work. You should look at them honestly and quit trying to cover your failures.

 

Every silly statement you make is a claim. You must have been one of those "disruptive" students that got no education in school, hence your desire to cover for them. Very non-productive, as usual.

 

(a) A teacher may suspend any pupil from the teacher’s class, for any of the acts enumerated in Section 48900 (see below), for the day of the suspension and the day following. The teacher shall immediately report the suspension to the principal or the principal’s designee for appropriate action. If that action requires the continued presence of the pupil at the school site, the pupil shall be under appropriate supervision, as defined in policies and related regulation adopted by the governing board of the school district. As soon as possible, the teacher shall ask the parent or guardian of the pupil to attend a parent-teacher conference regarding the suspension. Whenever practical, a school counselor or a school psychologist shall attend the conference regarding the suspension. A school administrator shall attend the conference if the teacher or the parent so requests. The pupil shall not be returned to the class from which he or she was suspended, during the period of suspension, without the concurrence of the teacher of the class and the principal.

(b) A pupil suspended from a class shall not be placed in another regular class during the period of suspension. However, if the pupil is assigned to more than one class per day, this subdivision shall apply only to other regular classes scheduled at the same time as the class from which the pupil was suspended.

(c) A teacher may also refer a pupil, for any of the acts enumerated in Section 48900, to the principal or the principal’s designee for consideration of a suspension from the school.

48900 Grounds for Suspension or Expulsion; Legislative Intent.
a) Causing, attempting, or threatening to cause physical injury to another person.

b) Possessing, selling, or furnishing any firearm, knife, explosive or other dangerous object, unless possession is with written permission from a certificated employee concurred in by the principal.

c) Unlawfully possessing, using, selling or furnishing, or being under the influence of, any controlled substance, an alcoholic beverage, or intoxicant.

d) Unlawfully offering, arranging, or negotiating to sell any controlled substance, and alcoholic beverage, or intoxicant, and then either selling, delivering, or furnishing to any person another liquid, substance, or material and representing it as a controlled substance, alcoholic beverage or intoxicant.

e) Committing or attempting to commit robbery or extortion.

f) Causing or attempting to cause damage to school or private property.

g) Stealing or attempting to steal school or private property.

h) Possessing or using tobacco.

i) Committing an obscene act or engaging in habitual profanity or vulgarity.

j) Unlawfully possessing or unlawfully offering, arranging, or negotiating to sell any drug paraphernalia.

k) Disrupting school activities or willfully defying valid authority. (Applies only to grades 4-12.) Ed. Code 48900.

l) Knowingly receiving stolen school or private property.

m) Possession of an imitation firearm so substantially similar to an actual firearm as to lead a reasonable person to conclude that the imitation is a firearm.

n) Committing sexual harassment, as defined. (Applies only to grades 4-12.) Ed. Code 48900.

o) Causing, attempting or threatening to cause, or participating in hate violence as defined. (Applies only to grades 4-12). Ed. Code 48900.3.

p) Intentional harassment, threat, intimidation of pupil or group of pupils that materially disrupts or creates a hostile educational environment. Ed. Code 48900.4.

q) Committing or attempting to commit a sexual assault or battery, as defined in penal code.

r) Harassing, threatening or intimidating a pupil who is a complaining witness or a witness in a school disciplinary proceeding.

s) Unlawfully offering or selling the prescription drug Soma.

t) Engaging, or attempting to engage in hazing.

u) Engaging in the act of bullying.

The above-listed acts must be related to school activity or attendance to be used as a basis for suspension or expulsion. Ed. Code 48900. The suspension is to be the last resort after the failure of other forms of discipline. Ed. Code 48900.5 and 48911.

 

Sending your children to public school should be classified as child abuse.

 

Quite a list for the liberals to ignore at their whim. And they will and probably fire any teacher who tries to adhere to it.

 

I dont know what you're talking about.

 

There are more punishments to apply than just kicking them out of the school.

 

The excuses liberals always make when ignoring bad behavior in kids, or illegals. It must be the fault of society for their actions so they must be forgiven.

You know, their typical BS

 

And these have worked so well (sarcasm). The so called adults, at least in California, are afraid to do anything with the problem kids lest these kids not like them. Hint, they already do not like them.

 

The world will end after 30 days.

Or possibly the First Amendment will experience new respect.

 

Willful disobedience is a very common cause for dismissal from work - so I think that failing to provide punishment for willful defiance in school is just setting many up for failure.

 

Yeah right. It's the liberals who put the blame on things like video games and music.

 

Afraid? You go source this nonsense.