California's Carry Ban Struck Down

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  1. stjames1_53

    stjames1_53 Banned

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    barking at the moon doesn't make you top dog....CCW is Carry Conceal Weapon, FFL is Federal Firearms License. Of course if you knew what you were talking about, you would have surely known that.................
    If you have an FFL, you can purchase just about anything, anywhere, anytime. Restricted firearms included. He is right, with an FFL.
    and Hoosier claimed no such thing. He acknowledged that an FFL removes a lot of restrictions that a simple CCW has on it. It also acts as its own CCW, too.
     
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    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I never claimed to be an expert on gun acronyms.

    But thanks again for backing me up. I appreciate it. I agree it is silly to claim that you can purchase a machine gun just like you can a hand gun, as Hoosier claimed.
     
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    If you don't know what an FFL is then you have no business arguing about what should and should not be legal concerning guns. It is such a basic, commonly known term, it is akin to trying to practice medicine having never set foot in medical school.
     
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    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm always willing to learn.

    Since you appear to hold yourself out as informed on the subject, are you defending the position that anyone can buy a machine gun just like you can buy a handgun too, or are you agreeing with me (who has no basis arguing)?
     
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    "Just like"? No. It's a more in-depth background check, takes longer, and is much more expensive (not the BG check, the weapon... A Legal M-16 runs roughly $20k, whereas a quality AR-15 is only about $1,000, and the only functional difference is a lack of a "fun switch"), but if you have a clean background, and a large enough budget, any person in the country* can buy and sell M-16's at will.

    * Some states prohibit Class-III weapons even for qualified individuals. I see that as a violation of the Constitution, but there is no case law on the subject that I am aware of, and since my State does not, I don't have standing to file a case.
     
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    again you misquote me. I said if you had an FFL, it makes no difference. You can buy both equally. Mod Edit ~ Don't make it personal
     
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    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    thank you for supporting my argument, as ill informed as it may be.
     
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    You are arguing semantics. The background check (the first time), is more extensive. Fact is, most people can and will qualify, and pretty much anyone who wants (and can afford) a machinegun, can get one. I want one. I can afford one. But I choose not to, because it's more money than I'm willing to spend.
     
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    Fair Warning to all contributors ~

    Focus on the thread topic. Stop making things personal.
     
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    Why was this even a federal issue?

    A natural right to acquire and possess even controversial forms of Private Property, and to protect that property, is already secured in our own State Constitution.

     

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