Can a woman be raped if she agrees to have sex?

let's say a woman agrees to sex, let's say for money - then the guy doesn't pay

or perhaps, the guy makes out he's some kind of record producer, gets the girl into bed, but then in the morning admits he's only a burger-flipper


or how about he says he's Jewish, bags a hot jewish girl, but then reveals he's a muslim

are any of these then rapes??

 

Consensual sex is consensual sex even if the guy is a sleaze.....are you actually serious about this question???

 

I think he is(See: Rolling Stone), who would be stupid enough to have sex without having the complete trust and faith in the other partner(in this case, the female)? In the U.S, a woman can cry foul and you'll be charged instantly. You can cry foul and the world will hardly lose a snooze. Minority 'privileges' have undermined you, just because you're recognized as a "big bad male".

There's nothing wrong with a male practicing abstinence, if you practice abstinence you won't be coerced into being a woman's extra pocketbook. If you practice abstinence, you can actually live on with your life in peace. It took a while, but the Feminist Movement has actually allowed men to find a new way of existence: Self-preservation.

Who needs a woman if she's just going to use you like one of her tampons? There's no need. We're just emotionally charging it, as if a relationship is actually a good thing.

 

IMHO not rape. However, I can see someone making a case for it.

 

sure, because some people say it's rape - like certainly if a guy goes with a hooker but then doesn't pay, and the Jewish/Muslim scenario has actually been in the newspaper

 

Well. It's not rape, but some women would claim rape to get even, and judges tend to take a woman's word that she did not consent.

 

You're just being silly.

If a woman says "no" and the man forces her to have sex , it is rape, if it's consensual it isn't....that's just common sense....did you have some point????

 

Under current conditions, she can make up anything she wants, and have a man locked up.
Thanks, Marxists.

 

No -- most people are against criminalizing transmission of STDs. If rape by fraud became illegal, transmission of STD would be criminalized.

 

There is no after the fact, regret rape. It can only even be considered if she decides last second or during that she suddenly doesn't want to do it. Obviously if the guy keeps going and FORCES it, it shifts to rape, even though the girl is partially responsible for it allowing it to go that far. Any guy has to be pretty F'ed up to keep going while a girl is screaming at him to stop. Women who go along then a few weeks later claim its rape are WORSE than the guys who actually do it.

 

nothing to do with Marx, no - it's far more a case of 'thanks liberal capitalists'

 

Do your homework. It's Cultural Marxism, the goal of which is to destroy society by promoting deviants to the top of the chain. The victim class. Women, Negros, Mexicans, pedophiles, beastiality, etc.

 

that is theft of services, just like not paying for a haircut, that is not rape

lying about being more successful then you are to get someone to sleep with you is not rape either.... if there is consent

lying about being a different religion then you are to get someone to sleep with you is not rape either.... if there is consent

now, if you lie to them, they may be so mad they lie to the police and say you raped them.... so best to be honest

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The original intent behind rape-by-deception was right minded. Basically it was looking for a way to prosecute those who impersonate another person to have sex (ex. follow a girl into a dark closet in what she believes to be a tryst with her husband/boyfriend). Shifting that to people who have sex with somebody because they think he/she is more wonderful than they are, is ludicrous. If you are going to screw some guy you normally wouldn't just because you think he is a record producer, you have no moral high ground to stand and cast judgement.

 

Depends on the statute governing non-consensual sexual intercourse (of various types). At common law, yes, some of them would be. The mnemonic we used to use was "f'ing by force, fear or fraud". Things got complicated when our legislators upgraded from version 1.0 to 10.0 almost overnight and the old mnemonic lost its usefulness.

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You know Marx was a horny goat don't you? Karl I mean, not Groucho, whom I think you were referring to.

 

Which is possibly where we get the saying about a woman being able to change her mind. It might come as a shock to some blokes but even while she's consenting she can still withdraw that consent and no further activity is allowed.

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Deviants should always be on top.

 

What if she consents on initiation but, withdraws consent during ?

Like when he wants to employ a coca cola bottle.
No cap, he isn't cruel
Thinking of that special "Banshee" episode when the Black man is hurting the
fragile white whore.


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You need to brush up a bit or be very careful. Gaining consent by misrepresentation is, at common law, rape. It might be different in your state but I'd recommend a quick look through the statutes to be useful.

 

My state's take on it:

46—Consent to sexual activity
(1) In this section—
sexual activity includes sexual intercourse.
(2) For the purposes of this Division, a person consents to sexual activity if the person freely and voluntarily agrees to the sexual activity.
(3) Without limiting subsection (2), a person is taken not to freely and voluntarily agree to sexual activity if—
(a) the person agrees because of—
(i) the application of force or an express or implied threat of the application of force or a fear of the application of force to the person or to some other person; or
(ii) an express or implied threat to degrade, humiliate, disgrace or harass the person or some other person; or
(b) the person is unlawfully detained at the time of the activity; or
(c) the activity occurs while the person is asleep or unconscious; or
(d) the activity occurs while the person is intoxicated (whether by alcohol or any other substance or combination of substances) to the point of being incapable of freely and voluntarily agreeing to the activity; or
(e) the activity occurs while the person is affected by a physical, mental or intellectual condition or impairment such that the person is incapable of freely and voluntarily agreeing; or
(f) the person is unable to understand the nature of the activity; or
(g) the person agrees to engage in the activity with a person under a mistaken belief as to the identity of that person; or
(h) the person is mistaken about the nature of the activity.


Example—
A person is taken not to freely and voluntarily agree to sexual activity if the person agrees to engage in the activity under the mistaken belief that the activity is necessary for the purpose of medical diagnosis, investigation or treatment, or for the purpose of hygiene.


47—Reckless indifference
For the purposes of this Division, a person is recklessly indifferent to the fact that another person does not consent to an act, or has withdrawn consent to an act, if he or she—
(a) is aware of the possibility that the other person might not be consenting to the act, or has withdrawn consent to the act, but decides to proceed regardless of that possibility; or
(b) is aware of the possibility that the other person might not be consenting to the act, or has withdrawn consent to the act, but fails to take reasonable steps to ascertain whether the other person does in fact consent, or has in fact withdrawn consent, to the act before deciding to proceed; or
(c) does not give any thought as to whether or not the other person is consenting to the act, or has withdrawn consent to the act before deciding to proceed.
48—Rape
(1) A person (the offender) is guilty of the offence of rape if he or she engages, or continues to engage, in sexual intercourse with another person who—
(a) does not consent to engaging in the sexual intercourse; or
(b) has withdrawn consent to the sexual intercourse,
and the offender knows, or is recklessly indifferent to, the fact that the other person does not so consent or as so withdrawn consent (as the case may be).
Maximum penalty: Imprisonment for life.


(2) A person (the offender) is guilty of the offence of rape if he or she compels a person to engage, or to continue to engage, in—
(a) sexual intercourse with a person other than the offender; or
(b) an act of sexual self‑penetration; or
(c) an act of bestiality,
when the person so compelled does not consent to engaging in the sexual intercourse or act, or has withdrawn consent to the sexual intercourse or act, and the offender knows, or is recklessly indifferent to, the fact that the person does not so consent or has so withdrawn consent (as the case may be).
Maximum penalty: Imprisonment for life.


(3) In this section—
compels—a person compels another person if he or she controls or influences the other person's conduct by means that effectively prevent the other person from exercising freedom of choice;
sexual self‑penetration means the penetration by a person of the person's vagina, labia majora or anus by any part of the body of the person or by any object.


48A—Compelled sexual manipulation
(1) A person (the offender) is guilty of an offence if he or she, for a prurient purpose, compels a person to engage, or to continue to engage, in—
(a) an act of sexual manipulation of the offender; or
(b) an act of sexual manipulation of a person other than the offender; or
(c) an act of sexual self‑manipulation,
when the person so compelled does not consent to engaging in the act, or has withdrawn consent to the act, and the offender knows, or is recklessly indifferent to, the fact that the person does not so consent or has so withdrawn consent (as the case may be).
Maximum penalty:
(a) for a basic offence—imprisonment for 10 years;
(b) for an aggravated offence—imprisonment for 15 years.


(2) In this section—
compels—a person compels another person if he or she controls or influences the other person's conduct by means that effectively prevent the other person from exercising freedom of choice;
prurient purpose—a person acts for a prurient purpose if the person acts with the intention of satisfying his or her own desire for sexual arousal or gratification or of providing sexual arousal or gratification for someone else;
sexual manipulation means the manipulation by a person of another person's genitals or anus (whether or not including sexual intercourse);
sexual self‑manipulation means the manipulation by a person of his or her genitals or anus (whether or not including sexual self‑penetration, within the meaning of section 4.

 

I do not think it would be rape, but not something I need concern myself with, if you plan to do these things, I would recommend you do more research

 

anything pre-consent is not rape, anything after consent rescinded is rape

same as if the guy says no more in the middle of sex after he is done, women do not have a right to an orgasm just cause a man had one, though a good man would return the favor

 

No rape. The dude is a dip-s**, but she's still a whore.

 

'Cultural Marxism' is a term made up by conservatives, and it has nothing to do with (Karl) Marxism.

 

sure he was, bit of a ladies man, as was Stalin - however, he didn't follow all these very bourgois beliefs about feminsim etc.., no that's more an individualist, liberal capitalist thing

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so how does that work? I mean, if I say I"m an oil exec, but am really just a dishwasher, could that make me a rapist or what?

 

If you get away with it, it makes you. BS artist. If she immediately sees through your BS line and laughs at you, it makes you a embarrassed fool.