Can anyone give 1 legit reason why recreational use of drugs should not be legalized?

When a person uses drugs it stays in their system. If they use on the job it may be hard to tell and you bone want a guy that works for you high hurting a customer or other person not employed by you either directly of by preforming sub standard work. The lawsuits will put you under. So many companies will not hire users for liability reasons and this means they may not get a job.

As long as no welfare is paid if you can not find a job due to drug use I really do not care.

 

I am not sure why that should be the case, in any at-will employment state. shouldn't liability be more associated with for-cause employees?

 

If they do it correctly then where's the problem?

 

Why do you keep ranting to me about banning soda? I oppose any and all bans on beverages.

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I have a question. Do you also endorse a ban on sex? Ya' know, HIV, in big bold letters and all?

 

daniel do you understand liability? Do you understand what right to work and work at will states are?

Liability as this point is on the employer because they are ultimately responsible. They chose not to test and contributed to the event. This is not to say that the employees is not responsible and completely off the hook but they make the argument that the employer had the wink-wink nod-nod view of drugs and did approve by not testing.

 

That could very well be true if I happened to go under his knife about the time he was feeling the need to shoot up.

 

Yes: Destabilization of the Mexican economy and political climate during a time when we so very much need that country to simmer down and be a reliable ally.

 

It's also true right now unless you're watching your doctor all the time like some sort of crazy stalker.

 

The point being, of course, that anyone who willingly goes under the knife of a surgeon he knows to be a heroin user is an idiot - to say nothing of a hospital admin who would knowingly hire such a person on the grounds that "what he does off duty is his own business".

 

You forget, this is America. Your employers need you in peak mental condition when they pay you minimum wage.

 

People in favor of legalizing Crack, Heroin, Cocaine, or Crystal Methamphetamine must do the drug for one month solid, every day, so they understand what they are talking about.

 

The point is that they should held more responsible for, for-cause employees than for at-will employees.

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Why should that be the case? I subscribe to a point of view and an alternative, that claims we should have an FDA label on a drug on any market in our republic.

 

No matter our legal system is screwed up and companies are always libel for what employees do when the companies negligence is involved.

 

No matter our legal system is screwed up and companies are always libel for what employees do when the companies negligence is involved.

 

The other point is that we are wasting the Peoples' tax monies on a drug war, while not requiring the wealthiest to pay wartime tax rates for it; on a potentially for profit basis in an economy where it only takes money to make more money, not necessarily a work ethic or learning how to fish.

 

Whatever.

 

There is a difference between advocating legalization and use. Legal or not I will not use those drugs. Ive used meth in the past and been around meth heads. They are disgusting people and i want nothing to do with them.

 

By that same logic, shouldn't people who want it criminalized also need to do the drugs in question every day for a month? You know, so they can understand what they're talking about?

 

That's like saying people who are in favor of alcohol being legal should have to get drunk everyday for a month solid to understand what they are talking about.

Stupid logic.

 

The one thing I have learnt here is it is impossible to understand those that oppose the legalisation, they make no sense. Are you saying that you cannot support something unless you experience it.
So ...
if the US is to go to war, all the citizens that support it should go to the front for a month?
if abortion is to be legalised, all those that support it should have an abortion?
if euthanasia is to be legalised all that support it should become terminally ill for a month?
alcohol has been covered .. drunk for a month?
gay marriage ... gay for a month?
gun ownership ... own and use a gun for a month?

it just becomes more and more ridiculous like all the excuses, to me, with drugs it's about logic, management, cost, health.

If drugs were legalised there could be 2 or 3 categories of drugs. I will only mention a few here as without research into each it would be too difficult and time consuming.
1: Safe drugs: Drugs proven to cause little or no harm to the user and cause no ill side affects that would be socially unacceptable. Marijuana
2: Restricted drugs: Alcohol
3: Hard drugs: Heroin

Cat 1 should be freely available with government control on quality, strength, additives etc to anyone over the age of 18. In the US where it is illegal to drink at this age it may stop underage drinking and the associated ill affects to the youth and society.
Cat 2 should be freely available to anyone over the age of 21 with government control on quality, strength, additives etc
Cat 3 should be available on prescription from specialised medically trained dispensaries.

Cat 1: There is over whelming medical evidence that cannabis is medically safer than alcohol, and the behaviour of users is far more socially acceptable.
Cat 2: Alcohol lowers inhibitions, causes damage to liver, brain etc. Under 21 youths inhibitions are already low enough and the development of the brain and other organs is still in process until puberty is fully finished.
Cat 3: Trained dispensaries would monitor the health, physical and mental of users, provide counseling and monitor usage and provide safe, controlled doses and a safe environment.

The cost would be offset by the redirection of police, both state and federal to areas of real crime. Insurance companies also could be levied as there payouts would drop as drug related thefts for money to purchase drugs would drop.

This is just a rough outline and one idea I have been playing with, but of course it would have some holes which an intelligent process could iron out. It is purely an example of an idea.

I know it will be howled down by most, especially the anti drug lobby but as we can see here they are much miss informed especially those that refuse to admit that the one drug that causes the most crime, family breakdown and physical and mental harm is alcohol. Some even refusing to admit that alcohol is a drug or using pedantic statements to say it's not.

Discuss.................

 

Sorry I have heroin addicts living next to me now. Those of you reading this need to understand how awful it is. This year I stayed home by myself while my family went to thanksgiving at my in laws. One of us has to be here at all times or these scumbags will steal you blind. They even stole my wifes birdfeeders off the line. They smashed the window in my car, ripped the console out to carry the 1.90 worth of change. They steal from their own parents. My neighbor's daughter and her drug addicted scum friends stole everything the guy owned, stole everything I owned, my insurance paid for next to nothing, this scum even stole her dead mothers jewelry for a quick fix. If you think legalizing heroin is a good idea, you are a fool. Heroin addicts cannot control themselves and will never be able to no matter how much tax dollars you think will fix it. If you cant agree with that as a "legit" reason your brain isnt functioning properly. I have to get my license to carry now because of these scum just to protect my family.

 

I loved for Obama because I did not like McCain in 2008, and I voted for Ron Paul in 2012.

 

Thw only laws that are necessary are ones that protect non-consentng persons from the choices of others.

 

Being in your system is not the same as activing effecing you. Alcohol stays in your system for over a week, but but only impairs you for a few hours after drinking.