Can hate win an election?

That’s why you see many Americans on drugs the jobs we once used to take are no hoarded by these cultures that hate us

 

That's adorable! Well, since you were the one who offered the first anecdotes, what's your age/name/school?

 

I learned when someone can’t win a argument they deflect.

 

Jobs. Are. Not. Zero. Sum. The rest is made up bullshit as well.

 

Pointing out flaws in an argument is not "deflection." Surely you know this.

 

Show me a inner city that isn’t a police state, has many of its AMERICAN CITIZENS HOOKED on drugs and are violent? Baltimore? Chicago? Boston? Nyc?

 

Your not taking jobs
Flooded by people not like you. These low end jobs are for Americans,, looking to rebound

 

I'm in Austin. We aren't a "police state."

 

Jobs. Are. Not. Zero. Sum.

 

Facts aren’t flaws

lol Austin has a huge homeless drug problem,

 

Anecdotes are flawed evidence.

High population areas will always have more homelessness and drug use than lower population areas. Critically thinking people understand this. Your evidence that this was caused by immigration is . . . just kidding. You have ****ing nothing.

According to your "logic," immigration causes roads! We have way more roads than other areas, so that must be caused by immigration! This is literally how daft your argument is.

Even better, my income skyrocked when I moved here, and income in Austin is much higher than surrounding areas, so immigration must cause income levels to rise! You really didn't even try to think this through, did you?

 

The only foreign culture whose immigrants concern me when they come here, are Muslims. Yet, I know most Muslims are not unlike you or me--peaceful, normal people who just want to have a happy life. But a dangerous percentage of the world's Muslim population is extreme in their religious views, & are driven to kill anyone who they see as disagreeing with them or their interpretation of Islam. I'll admit, I have a hard time with this particular group of humanity. But I'm open to those Muslims who are peaceful & respectful to others who don't accept their religious beliefs. I've know a few families who fit into this category. They were & are nice people. Even they don't like their extremist religious counterparts. I'm not opposed to Muslim immigration here, but I am in favor of stiff examination of those who come, to avoid extremism gaining a foothold. Of course, there's no way to avoid having children or grandchildren of Muslim immigrants becoming extremists years after that original immigration. It's a challenging issue. How do we honor the rights of those immigrants who truly wish to comply with our laws, while trying to protect ourselves from individuals susceptible to the extremist radicalism trying to recruit them out there?

 

I saw NO citations whatsoever of anything I said that led to your specific statement

No. You didn't see that. Otherwise, when my reply could be completely summed up, "SHOW ME WHERE," you would respond with my own words. The fact that you couldn't, shows us all that you're full of s**t. And someone without the character to, if not avoid slinging false claims, AT LEAST take responsibility & apologize for one's mistake, is as low as any of those whose words he demonizes, & his fallacious diatribes merit nothing but the scorn of any decent, honest, & principled person.

 

A lot of interesting stuff here, but frankly, for me, this all applies to Christians as well. Some of Paul's writings, taken literally, are completely incompatible with our Constitutional way of thought. Paul said that "hatred" of his God was "worthy of death" and that governments wielded the sword as God's executioners. Both the Koran and the Bible (NT and OT) have elements that are terrible/incompatible with our Constitutional way of life. They both also have "nice" verses. The "good" members of both traditions interpret the bad verses through the good verses. The "bad" members of both tradition interpret the good verses through the bad verses. I'm with you on the "strict examination," but we also have to admit that isn't a very strong response. Extremists could always lie about their beliefs.

 

And that sums ip the case for the left- alleged that you have been righteous and others have wronged, and everybody who doesn't agree owes you an apology. Of course, you probably assume they owe you anyway, most on the left do. You don't see what I see because of the reluctance to self-examine. I see you embodying those characteristics ..... you don't see that, so you just say it ain't so.... Such a position deserves no further comment. It's typical of the group you defend, and not worth the time to argue.
Probably wonder why few people care what you think.

 

Trump's cult followers support Trump because he hates the same people they do. His rallies resemble Hitler's rallies.

 

There is no doubt that hate plays a important role! Obviously on both sides.
Even forgettingthe hate factor, there is also the feeling that many people will vote "by default", or "against"rather than "for" one of the candidates.
In 2016, people voted against Hillary because she wasn't popular enough. In 2020, people will vote against Trump because he's too populist!

 

There's one difference you fail to note. Hitlers rallies usually had people required to attend Trump's people choose to attend. Biden's people follow Joe's example, and stay home- even if Joe actually holds a rally.
Apparently they can be lead down the garden path on a lot of goofy things, but can't be led to a Biden event. Maybe some are smarter than we think.

 

More B.S. You know nothing about me & can site no quote of mine to support your fictions, just as you were unable to corroborate your lies about me. So, though you have me, dead to rights, with THE PROOF, you're CHOOSING NOT TO SUPPLY IT? How insultingly stupid must you believe the people, who that propaganda is aimed at (because I know what a crock of crap your peddling), must be, to expect them to buy it?

 

I think it is possible that people hate Trump but may vote for him out of hatred of left wing mass media propaganda lies.

 

I can only form an opinion by what you say, the position you take, and the degree of honesty that appears to guide yo0ur choices. What nobody can do is convince a person with a closed mind to even consider alternative views.

You have failed to understand the post anyway, so you are arguing with your own fantasy here. Useless.

 

Whom are you voting for?

 

You don’t even know what homeless is.. these are ppl that would be home owners and have families 50 years ago.. working low wage jobs. Our culture has been destroyed by these foreigners..

 

We need to end immigration and assimilate.

 

Still no reply as to why you got this impression.

Still no quote of mine to validate this outright lie.

And that sums up your modus operandi. When you are unable to justify your argument, you revert to personal criticism and just plain lying to slander your opponent. Then, when the wronged individual asks for the basis of your slurs, you act as if they feel, "entitled," to things from others. I don't: only the kind of things that your own descriptions of, "morally right," would suggest, from someone who asserts his own decency. But that's just a load of hypocritical, self-justifying, crap. Your failure to have any actual argument in response to my points, other than non sequitur nonsense, is a tacit admission that you have been defeated in logical argument, so are seguing to all you have left: baseless character assassination. No wonder you feel affinity with Trump.

If you could support your claims, you would quote me. But you don't.

From what, "choices," of mine can you infer my, "degree of honesty?" But why bother to ask-- this is another case of a, "lefty," imagining that an indictment of my honesty means I've been, "wronged," & so am, "owed," something, right? And therefore, once again, you will provide no basis for your bad-faith comments.

Your fabrications, it seems to me (again, & ironically, reflecting Trump), appear to be about yourself:

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