Can people really be asexual?

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  1. Deckel

    Deckel Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Where did I say the world has 978 genders?
     
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    Der No (*)(*)(*)(*) it's psychological. Humans are male and female do it isn't biological.

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    You need my permission?
     
  3. ChrisL

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    No kidding. Who is this poster to tell us what we can discuss or not?! :roll: I would just ignore the poster and continue on with your discussion.
     
  4. Pax Aeon

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    Could you rephrase that so it can be understood?
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    Not you personally. The Rainbow Police.
     
  6. Polydectes

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    Asexual isn't a gender, we come in male and female and that's it. It's a sexual orientation or rather a lack there of.
     
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    Well there are a lot of people making a lucrative living by pretending they do then!
     
  8. Ritter

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    If you are a prude* you are a prude, that is your choice. Sexuality however, is not a choice- either you are straight, gay or bi. Asexuality, as it is described, is no more than prudity. Hence it is a choice and thus not an orientation.

    Sure in the overly sexualised world we live in today, prudity might seem as something deviant perhaps even to the degree that one might think they are a sexual minority, which really isn't the case. Or you might be suffering from low self-esteem or experienced trauma and therefore "choose" to avoid sex.

    If you identify as asexual, but then meet a partner, fall in love and engage in sexual intercourse you are-per definition- not asexual. Sexuality is permanent and not something that is fluid. If you are [enter term of choice]sexual, you stay that way.
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    *Prude is to me not at all an insult. I actually value prudity and think people who are, deserve just as much respect as anyone else. The term is not used to ridicule or bully asexuals.
     
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    This is exactly why I have a hard time grasping the concept of asexuality. It is not consistent, it is not permanent and it is way too fluid. There should be no buts.

    Just check these sentences out for a while and then look at your own post again;
    "I am straight, but not in the strictest sense.."
    "I am gay, but not in the structest sense."
    "I am trans, but not in the strictest sense."
    "My forum name is Ritter, but not in the strictest sense."

    Okay the last one was a joke but you get the point.
     
  10. lynnlynn

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    Wouldn't a Priest or a nun fall under the category of choosing to be asexual?
     
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    ****I think trying to define in simple or narrow terms something like human 'sexuality', no matter how one 'identifies' can't be done****. Being asexual is not only the lack of sexual attraction to anyone but it can also be the absence or 'low interest' in, or desire for sexual activity. It may also be considered as a lack of sexual orientation or one of the variations thereof alongside heterosexuality, homosexuality and bisexuality. Or a more broad term to used to categorize a broader field of various asexual sub-identities.
     
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    No, that would be Celibacy;

    cel·i·ba·cy
    ˈseləbəsē/Submit
    noun
    the state of abstaining from marriage and sexual relations.
    "his brother's priestly vow of celibacy"

    And even that is questionable, given how many so called Celibate people transgress.
     
  13. Johnny-C

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    The actual answer is, 'yes'.

    And one need not merely "think" (imagine) there are asexual people... science has explained/studied and verified asexuality in human beings.

    It's relatively EASY to access the knowledge, using Google or other sources. There is no need for 'wild' speculation or bootleg theories about the same.
     
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    I would tend to think that being completely asexual (not experiencing desire, etc) is an abnormality and probably related to some chemical imbalance or malfunction somewhere in the body or brain.
     
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    Science explains it, as best it can be explained.
     
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    And what would be the differential diagnostic procedure for such a conclusion ?

    Male Hypoactive Sexual Desire Disorder ( reference the DSM-5 625.89 (F52.0 ) is the correct medical term.

    http://www.theravive.com/therapedia/Male-Hypoactive-Sexual-Desire-Disorder-DSM--5-625.89-(F52.0)

    http://www.dsm5.org/Research/Documents/Brotto 2010.pdf
     
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    Test their testosterone/progesterone levels and other chemicals? Some medications can make people "asexual."

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    I'm talking about people who don't have sexual desire and not people who have chosen to not have sex. Losing your sexual desire can be from many, many different things.
     
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    There are many other factors.

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    Yes, I know, I spent many hours in CME lectures.
     
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    To me, there is a senselessness to this argument. First off, I don't care a FF what people consider themselves as. I mean as of now, there are 60+ different kinds of variations of sexual identity. Call yourself what you want. If you are happy, then cool. End discussion. I don't need a 10 minute explanation by anyone. I'll respect your beliefs and you respect mine.
     
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    Most people are curious by nature and that is how we learn.
     
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    I don't mistake curiosity for intelligence.
     
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    Did I say they were the same thing? I'm saying that people are naturally curious. It's normal and by exploring things is how we learn about things. Not everyone has your "I don't give a crap" attitude.
     
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    I don't care what you said...I'm saying I don't mistake curiosity for intelligence. That is my statement. Please do not presume to lecture me on anything.
     
  25. ChrisL

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    Well fine, continue to talk to yourself.
     

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