Can Ron Paul win as a third party candidate?

Uhh... no. This is a fact you have already conceded up-stream.

Your own words.

If Paul is not the Republican nominee, he *WILL* run 3rd party. Ergo, no other Republican in this field has any chance whatsoever of winning.
What I don't get is why you're wasting your time expressing your displeasure about it. It's not like you're going to dissuade all his supporters from their chosen course of action. They're gonna do what they want regardless of your opinion.

Most rational adults figure that there's no sense in stressing over events they have no control over. Instead, they focus on what they can do.

You have already stated upstream that if Paul is the nominee, you will vote for him. Therefore, your overriding priority is to get rid of Obama. Am I wrong?

If that's the case, it makes more sense to work towards getting Paul the nomination rather than working towards having him split the base with a 3rd party run.

 

So we've been paying him full time for 35 years and he's been giving part time efforts.

In loony lala land that WOULD qualify him to be president. Liberals love mediocrity. Conservatives prefer RESULTS. Paul has shouted lofty ideas for 35 years, intermixed with some wacky stuff, accomplishing NOTHING.

The biased leftist press would point that out in banner headlines on an hourly basis if Paul was b.o.'s opponent.

If Paul were to beat b.o., I'd be very happy. Anybody that beats b.o. would make me happy. But as president would Paul be able to get Congress to go along with him when he could not get them on his side in 35 years?

 

I Repeat: Realistically, you don't have any choice. Your only options here are to either get on board with Paul or accept that Obama will win the election.

 

And I repeat, that is your erroneous opinion, based on emotion. Your wrongful opinion is completely disassociated with reality.
The absolute guarantee of an obama reelection is Paul as the candidate.

 

*Shrug* My opinion is based on the same facts you have already stated yourself. Difference is, mine is supported by them while yours contradicts them.
One of the two is incorrect. I've no doubt well find out which in due time.

 

And I will demand your apology.

 

I'm still trying to figure out the point of replacing Obama with Romney were it even possible. If you want gun ban laws, amnesty, national healthcare, and all the rest of it, just keep Barry.

 

I will vote for Ron Paul in the NJ primary. IF he loses the nomination and decides to run as an independent, my support for Ron Paul will end and switch to the Republican nominee. Voter dilution is a complication that is not needed in the 2012 election.

 

I would vote for Obuma before I'd vote for Ron Paul and I'm a Gingrich supporter.

 

I start to get confused:
1. I can see Ron Paul not voting for Newt Gingrich or vice-versa in November of 2012.
2. I can NOT see Ron Paul or Newt Gingrich voting for Obama.
3. I can NOT see Ron Paul or Newt Gingrich running as Independents. This action is essentially an act of sabotage against the Republican party.

Sit home on voting day if you lose, OK. Become an activist against the African dictator, not OK and become insignificant.

 

I would never vote for Obama or Gingrich and I'm a Paul supporter. They're both progressive slime balls.

 

The confusion comes from not understanding Paul's thought process.
He is perfectly fine with committing an act of sabotage against the Republican party if that forces them to start practicing what they preach.
Last cycle, he refused to endorse the Republican candidate. This time, he's not running for re-election to his House seat.
The math only comes up one way.

 

Ron Paul is totally winning the GOP nom. The MSM is dying right now, grasping for straws at Ron Paul. They've even went so far as to have Huckabee sympathize for Obama. IKR, Huckabee... He spoke out against Obama regularly...


Dont you see? The Establishment is positioning itself for a Ron Paul win. They sense it... Especially since Gingrich would rather vote Obama. The MSM is blatantly getting their audience ready to get with Obama...

Abandon Ship!!!

 

Interesting analysis on third party candidates.

http://www.voteyourheart.us/

 

My first presidential vote was for John Anderson in 1980. The exit polling showed that he likely would have won had people thought he had a chance of winning. Rather than vote their conscience, however, they voted for the perceived winner. This type of thinking is a self-fulfilling prophecy. It's is an old game being played and, unfortunately, many Americans are still suckers for it.

 

Sad but true...

 

Paul should start a 3rd party simply because he is in no way a Republican. But he won't win anything, whatever he does.

 

Blah, Blah, Blah. The TV keeps repeating that, yet, Ron Paul is leading Iowa, and tied for second in NH.

I'll wake you when its over.

 

I agree with you PB,

Certainly an indication that he will do anything to further his personal agenda. He has clearly demonstrated in the past, as well as currently, that he is not the principled person some hold him out to be.

He speaks ill of the current administration (of which I am no fan), but rather than committing to supporting the eventual GOP nominee, assuming it isn't him, he and his supporters would look to divide voters and insure a continuation of the Obama administration.

That doesn't sound very principled to me. Who knows, he may be a shill for Obama... obviously, he will do anything for money.

 

Another mouthpiece for the MSM. Blah, Blah, Blah.

You have nothing to substantiate your claims. Ron Paul has taken no bribes...

 

Ron Paul is third at best in the GOP. Iowa is his singular state where he is doing well. Nationally he's third. So Paul fanatics either cannot face reality OR they are engaging in lies.

 

I vote Both.
Great post !

 

Paul has some ideas that I do not totally resent, but his chances of living long enough to get elected, let alone be president, are miniscule. But please, wake me when it's over, eh?

 

and miss the fun..

the fun ..

 

The reality of it all, is Obama gets a second term, I have never voted democrat, but I will say this, if its Romney vs Obama, I wont be sad when Obama destroys him.