Can the Abbott government survive?

Excellent point. Watched Q&A last night and Jacqui Lambie was the only one who got audience applase when she addressed the issues you have pointed out in this post. I think some people are finally waking up to who, and where our money is being spent and squandered.

 

Abbotts gone into panic mode, lots and meetings and promises and still the liar of the past!

"Living in Australia is to have won the lottery of life" That was before he came along, which is why he keeps his British Citizenship!

 

I would say Turnbull but he has the ETS and republican issue in his box of goodies. Probably too many issues as well. He certainly wouldn't have Hockey as treasurer. Pyne would be a prickly little barb!

 

He is a loyal monarchist of Britain. His loyalties lie with Britain.

 

"Prime Mistress"??? we never heard you refer to Juliar as the Prime Mistress.

 

Your right, I hadn't thought of it until today, otherwise I would have.

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Your right, I hadn't thought of it until today, otherwise I would have.

 

We are seeing Abbotts true colours now. He must be an idiot if he can not smell himself. The public have given up on him.

He needs to step aside now. His ego is out of control. It will be interesting to see who has the guts to bring it on. Then you will see who cares about the country

 

Why doesn't Abbott shirtfront those destabilising him?

Abbotts a broken horse, all urine and wind!

 

We saw Abbott's true colours before he was elected!

 

Abbott today trotted the missus out to a childcare centre to tell all present her husband screwed them over and nothing has changed. Big man Abbott didn't have the balls to tell them himself!

 

I know Harold Wilson said a week was a long time in politics but these days it's got down to 24 hours. I think he's gone, just a matter of a week or two.
I'd like him to stay and lead the coalition to a defeat, but that's 'cos I'm just a bastard when it comes to politics.

 

I think the coalition is looking for a soft landing, they smell defeat, they smell a lost cause.

Everyone would like to see our budget in the black, not just the LNP. Everyone would like to see more jobs, not just the LNP. Everyone would like to see more infrastructure, not just the LNP.

But, everyone wants a leader, someone to look up to, someone to inspire confidence. A leader doesn't have to have all the answers, as a matter of fact, it is better if he/she doesn't have all the answers. It is better if the leader can gather a team from which he can extract answers. Then they are more objective, less arrogant and more careful in what they promise.

A leader looks at the whole picture, it is his job to draw upon those that have answers, to look into them and determine what would be the net affect. Take reducing the number of government employees. We have a country where we are not getting our moneys worth from our government employees, well that is not true across the board. Take nurses, we are under staffed in nurses.

If we sack a thousand government employees, they all have to go on welfare, well maybe not all, some have built up enough to retire, some get other jobs, but the jobs are not necessarily new jobs and someone has to miss out. It is much better to reallocate jobs within the public sector, it's not like there is nothing that needs to be done, but weeding out people just makes those left more fearful of their jobs, so they work more for safety then to create a better society.

Getting the budget into the black is important, and should be done, but to put that before everything else, actually has a bad affect on the economy. Just look at what they have tried to do.

Increasing the retirement age, and yes I know the ALP raised it from 65 to 67 and the Libs only increased it from 67 to 70 but it is how they did it, alone as an answer, but they said that we are an aging population and we cannot afford them (pensioners). The thing is we all know that the reason we are aging is mainly due to our taking better care of ourselves, with the governments blessing and support, take the "Norm" campaign. We also know we work smarter and technology is going ahead in leaps and bounds. So the general population are looking on he government as punishing them for doing better.

Stay healthy, develop better work practices, increase productivity, then you will live longer, work isn't as hard so you can work another 5 years for your efforts. Then they say that in the future we could live to 150, so we extrapolate this information in our heads. OMG, in the future they will want us to work even longer.

It's great to build, but we need to look at what we destroy in doing so, we need to weight things up, look at both sides of the coin, figure out what is best for the country.

THAT, is the leaders job, no one expects their leader to know and be able to do everything, then we wouldn't need a team.

A good leader is just that, a good leader, that is his skill set, leading. So he gathers his team, a team of people that know more about specific areas then he does. Then he leads them.

 

Monday, Abbott trotted the missus down to childcare so he could glow in the light of her telling all how good things were going to be in the future, her husband would see to that!

 

Its interesting you say that a good leader doesn't need to know all the answers, and that a good leader allows a good team to participate in the decision making process. How can this process happen when the majority of the leaders, nor their teammates have any prior knowledge or experience in the Senior Ministerial portfilio's they are given? The majority have never operated a lemonade stand in a front yard, but the people of Australia elect these same individuals to manage a $trillion countries economy. Have you ever considered that this is where the problems are stemming from: no experience and knowledge in being able to preform their jobs is constantly creating these economic and social problems? You wouldn't hire an individual to a senior managerial position without knowledge and experience to preform their duties, but why are the Australian people doing it, and then expecting something different besides constant problems?

 

With all due respect, and I'm not attempting levity. When I look at Abbott now, I see something mentally wrong with him - its like something has snapped inside his brain. Hell, he's even resorted to kissing babies again to make himself look good. I don't know of any politicians that do that anymore, because it looks so stale & crass. Photo opportunities kissing babies makes you look desperate!!

Its not really a social ladder climbing tool to say a politician slobbered all over your baby - LOL Considering they are on a lower social rung than used car salesmen; solicitors and real estate agents.

 

QUOTE=culldav;: "its like something has snapped inside his brain."

The question keeps going round in his brain. Do I stay or do I go, there's a ship waiting in the harbour, bound for old England she sails. What a somebody I could be, the past Australian Prime Minister who Knighted the Queens Consort!

 

3 brave men stood up
? cowards aren't game
? shrewd people don't want it to look like the Rudd/Gillard affair.

Wonder what the real total is?

 

"look like the Rudd/Gillard affair" Abbott twaddle! The punter got sick of the party, we didn't care how many leaders it had!

 

This government has so many problems that, regardless of its leader, it will more than probably be defeated in 2016. I hope Labor is taking note.

We are sick of being ruled.

We are sick of neo-liberal economic policies that try to take us back to a 19th Century, laissez-faire economy.

We are sick of having bad policy inflicted upon us for ideological reasons.

We don't want to tear anyone down. We're not envious of the wealthy. We just want a fair go and we're not getting it. If things are tough then explain, demonstrate, prove and we will do out bit to help out. But don't bull(*)(*)(*)(*) us while looking after big business and government's super-wealthy mates at our expense. Don't pursue the little bloke for tax when the big bastards are dodging it like Lillee when Miandad swung his bat at him.

We just want our nation back. We don't want to be like the US. We want to be like we used to be.

 

I hope the clowns in the ALP are taking notice, but I was taught that a leopard never changes its spots, and in the case of politicians, I cannot see them changing their mantra anytime soon.

I think your comments voice what many Australians are thinking and feeling, but they need to say it, and show they mean it.

The ALP went after the "super profits tax" in the mining industries, but didn't have balls or guts to put a super profits tax on the Banks, who were also making "super profits". This in the eyes of Australians was a double standard, and the ALP lost credibility over it.

Yes. We want to be financially and socially governed fairly. Its not reasonable for politicians to say they cannot pay welfare to our unemployed young people, and then buy $10 billion dollars worth of useless jets, and give $10 billion to the bloody Reserve Bank.

 

Abbotts LNP is now so rotten through its fully falling apart.

Christopher Pyne is backtracking on comments about Tony Abbott's future as prime minister, doesn't want to be remembered for that little knife job.

Thursday, The education minister was asked if he believed Mr Abbott had the numbers, 'That is a very inexact science, but I hope he does, yes.' Mr Pyne told the Nine Network:

 

Tony Abbott today, Campbell Newman of yesterday. "We have a strong plan, and we are determined to get on with it and we will'. Say goodbye the carnival is over!

 

Yep, they wimped out on the banks. I have no idea why. I would have thought the miners would have been a tougher target as they could mobilise their workforces and the communities which exist to serve the industry whereas we were/are all a bit over the banks and their super-profits.

 

I would imagine that they all have hidden blue chip shares in the banking sector. insurance companies as well.