Can we admit that homicide rates have little relation to gun control laws?

That would be akin to oligopolistic interaction and require game theory modelling. Good luck!

 

No, I'm very sure of the outcome without applying any process to it.

 

Which does not attempt to refute the statement that "suggest" means supposition and theory that cannot actually be proven.

 

You're just repeating your innocence of hypothesis testing. It grieves me to see how innocent you fellows are on the empirical process

 

Feel free to explain the referred to process that is utilized to prove conclusively that firearm-related restrictions are indeed the factor most responsible for the presented crime rates of various countries, rather than any other factor in play.

 

Compare and contrast Washington DC and Vermont.
Point proven.

 

Again this is just blubber that we don't accept hypothesis. Of course crime analysis is difficult. Of course we have to refer to multiple causal factors. But it is just a statement of fact that most studies find that the 'more guns=more crime' hypothesis cannot be rejected.

 

It is indeed rejected by FACT !
Millions of law abiding citizens with concealed carry permits that do NOT Murder or harm anyone.
If they were, those permits would be taken away.

Guns do not = crime.

 

I'd say this pretty much rejects your hypothesis.

 

I'd say that it pretty much confirms that you don't understand what a spurious relationship is.

 

You obviously do not understand the need to be able to protect oneself from viscous violent criminals.

 

I'd say this absolutely means that you cannot say that more guns equals more homicides.
Nothing spurious about it. I presented facts.

 

As you haven't isolated gun effects, you're making standard spurious conclusion. This only tells me that you don't bother with the empirical research

 

Gun effects ?
Research ?
That would mean study of issues involving guns ?
How about incidents related to legitimate use of guns for Defense ?

 

That works both ways. Given the facts that I have presented. It would not be accurate to say that more guns sold in America has resulted in more homicides. Homicides have declined, gun sales have skyrocketed.

 

It doesn't reflect both ways and its ignorant to suggest so. Nothing can be said unless gun effects are isolated. You might as well link DoctorWho's comment quality with peanut sales. Unless other factors are controlled for, we have nothing of interest.