Can we have a civil, thoughtful discussion on this?

is the only difference between car owning and slavery that car owning removes peoples right to liberty?? You speak gibberish english

 

No, because cars' value comes from their producers' labor, which the owner pays THEM for, not from publicly provided services and infrastructure, community-provided opportunities and amenities, and nature-provided physical qualities, which the landowner just pays the previous landowner for, not the providers of those benefits. Paying those who PROVIDE the benefits is what makes owning a car not a subsidy. Getting to charge others for what government, the community and nature provide is what makes owning land a subsidy.

GET IT????

As they say in Japan, "It's mirror time!"

 

more absurd gibberish nonsense. In America many prefer to rent, businesses and individuals, to save capital for other purposes, and obviously don't feel they are enslaving themselves by doing so!! 1+1=4?

 

That was your gibberish. Owning a car does not deprive anyone of anything they would otherwise have. Owning land does. You will say, do, and believe ANYTHING WHATEVER in order to avoid knowing that self-evident and indisputable fact of objective physical reality, because you have already realized that it proves your beliefs are false and evil.

 

Don't you understand what it means when you have to remove the context in order to respond? It means YOU KNOW that the context proves you wrong.

 

Nope. Flat false. They killed 120M (or however many millions it was) by forcibly depriving people of THE FRUITS OF THEIR LABOR; and while their land policies were certainly ill-advised, destructive and indefensible, they were not the principal cause of the mega-deaths.

Landowning is not based on natural law. Private ownership of land is unknown in nature.

Yes.

 

sounds like libcommie gibberish. Rememebr when Obama said " you didn't built that?" You want govt to steal land and Obama wanted govt to steal businesses and their land. A libcommie will have 10001 moronic excuses to steal everything so they own and control everything and so natural law causes an American revolution.

 

You mean the free market where a slave's owner sells him to a new owner...?

You are destroyed. Nothing you can possibly say even matters any more, because you have just admitted you support slavery: owners selling to new owners, and never mind how they got to BE the owners. You have proved you cannot refute a single sentence I have written, while I have invariably demolished and humiliated you for your absurd, irrational and disingenuous drivel.

 

so then all of humanity lived on the best sq foot on earth or they had a way the everyone had their own property on which to live sleep hunt gather and protect their children??

 

slavery is illegal people are not slaves so we don't have a free market in slaves. Speak english please

 

Are you assuming I support IP laws?

 

Who created the gold atoms?

 

if so I will pay you $10,000. Bet??

 

Do animals need to own a spot to live, sleep, hunt, gather there?

Why would people?

Your claims continue to be false, absurd, and disingenuous.

 

Yes, because you support rentier parasitism, which IP laws enable. You probably also support commercial banksters being privileged to create debt money de novo in order to charge interest on it.

 

No one. You don't have to create gold atoms to create a gold ring.

But then, you know that perfectly well, don't you?

 

You have said you support a free market. You then defined a free market as a market where owners sell to new owners. As that is what happens with slavery, you support slavery.

You can donate my $10K to the World Economics Association.

 

Talking to yourself, again ... ?

 

Guess again.

 

So you think it's right for someone to hoard those gold atoms that have been provided by nature? What right does he have to prevent others from using that which nature provided?

 

Didn't you know? It's the LOCATION that matters. If a person were to go and remove all the water, tree's, gold, stone etc...from a plot of land those things all become the fruit of someones labor and can travel with them without issue. That barren piece of land that is left over is ALL THAT MATTERS.

 

Nature didn't provide the gold atoms THERE, so he is not depriving anyone of anything they would otherwise be at liberty to use.

 

Well if you don't support bankster parasitism or IP owners' parasitism, why would you support landowner parasitism? Your position is not logically consistent. If you are going to favor injustice over justice in possession and use of land -- i.e., evil over good -- why not support injustice and evil in monetary systems or IP?

 

Assuming no one else wanted to use those things and was forcibly deprived of their liberty to do so.

Looks like another strawman fallacy.

 

What will be interesting is when we start colonizing and exploring other planets. What will the Georgists do then? Their heads just may explode.