Infringing happens to be criminal against the Second Amendment according to the law. Do you support criminal activity against the law?
Please inform me exactly how you came up with that idea. I have never thought that or believed that. Of course I do. My thought is if the Founders thought so, then that is good enough for me. Religious morality was highly considered as another check on corruption within government.
Any that practices and supports any limitation imposed by the federal government on gun ownership, and of course the federal government.
Thomas Jefferson, Ben Franklin, George Washington and many other prominent Patriots were all well aware of the inherent DANGERS posed by RELIGION in a society. Jefferson more so than others was well aware of how religious leaders could corrupt a system of government and that is why Freedom of Religion in the U.S. Constitution is also FREEDOM FROM RELIGION. THAT....is the way our Founding Fathers were smart enough to protect us. AboveAlpha
Really? Please illustrate how the First Amendment outlines that we should legislate religious morality. While you're at it, perhaps you could explain what the Founders meant when they said "...the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion..."? http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/ampage?collId=llsp&fileName=002/llsp002.db&recNum=24 I find the idea that you want your religious beliefs to be legislation, while claiming to support the Constitution amusing - particularly given the paranoid rantings many conservatives have spewed about Sharia law. Typical inconsistancy and hypocrisy for which today's conservatives have become known. - - - Updated - - - And yet you don't mind infringing on the 1A rights of others by legislating morality (as dictated by one specific religion) on a federal level...
1. A minority of Americans own guns, but just how many is unclear. More than a third of Americans say they or someone in their household owns a gun. There are by various estimates anywhere from 270 million to 310 millionguns in the United States close to one firearm for every man, woman and child. A minority of Americans own guns, but just how many is ... www.pewresearch.org/.../a-minority-of-americans-own-guns-but-just-how-... 1. Gun Control - Just Facts www.justfacts.com/guncontrol.asp‎ Learn more about guns and gun control through studies, statistics, and ... Click on the footnote numbers for meticulous documentation of each fact. ... there are roughly 300 million firearms owned by civilians in the United States as of 2010. 1. By the numbers: Guns in America - CNN.com www.cnn.com/2012/08/09/politics/btn-guns-in-america/‎ CNN Aug 9, 2012 - Here's a look at the fire power Americans are packing and how Americans feel about their Second Amendment right, by the numbers. 310 million -- Total number of nonmilitary firearms in the United States as of 2009. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_of_guns_per_capita_by_country
Exactly how does that contradict what I said? The First Amendment certainly doesn't prohibit the practice of religion in our daily lives, it simply prohibits a national religion or church. It may keep you 'from religion', but it certainly does not let you keep me from religion. Mr Jefferson, whom I revere as the best President we have had, use to attend worship services held in the cloakroom of the House of Representatives.
It doesn't and I never said it did. Found in a treaty designed to placate Muslims? You seem to be really grasping, now. I in turn, find your less than truthful characterization of what I believe, somewhat boring.. May I simply point out you continue to write the conversation as you wish it to be and not as it is. I couldn't care any less about legislating morality for you or any one else. At some point, it seems, you decided to abandon the Second Amendment argument, and go off tangent on the First Amendment.
You are not understanding what I mean. I am saying that we have BOTH freedom to worship or NOT. AboveAlpha
Since you are always asking everyone to show proof of their claims, and I know you would never dare to be a hypocrit, you must have some good objective (empasis on objective, no SPLC or NAACP BS) proof. Lets see it.
Then I fail to see your problem. If I choose to worship, it seems to offend you. If you choose not to worship, I really couldn't care less. You however are seemingly bound to keep me from worshiping because it offends you. You wish to have a win-win only for you and those like you.
LOL! It's a good question. Why would the govt be buying up so much ammo? Don't they have their own pipeline via govt contracts?
I believe you said the Founders supported legislating religious morality... I've illustrated that they clearly did not. Appeal to motive much? Do you believe that the Founders documented falsehoods for the purpose of placating foreigners? How does this fit with your apparent belief that the BoR (more of their writing) is infallible? Oh, so you don't have a problem with the idea of Sharia law being implemented? You couldn't care less about the Rights outlined in the first amendment, but claim that any limitation to the second half of the second amendment is unpatriotic... How can you not see the hypocrisy in this? My obvious point is that your position appears to be the one typical of many conservatives: "I got mine, screw everyone else." You pretend to be a patriot defending the BoR, but you don't care about anything other than half of one amendment. It's transparent and pathetic.
I certainly do not wish to legislate morality; I am convinced it can not be done. That, however, doesn't negate the concept of the Founders that those serving in an elective capacity or even a hired hand capacity, should not be imbued with a strong sense of morality based on faith. They furthermore espoused the precept it was the peoples duty to determine the fitness of those willing to serve.
You seem to be a master at twisting and spinning to suit your needs. Personally, I really don't give a fat rats arse what you think as I am sure you couldn't care less what I believe either. it is, in my opinion, all about 'winning the argument'. Argue with yourself- that should screw the pooch in your head.
Not if that morality is a cornerstone of all religions, like not killing for example. You have no argument against that yet it is a moral law.
That was in response to an inference of either inaccuracy, doubt or source as to the amount of civilian population/firearms in the USA for Logi0311. Honestly I expect that the actually number is quite a bit higher. The reason is I believe many people taking a survey regarding firearms in the home will say zero as a number when in fact there is likely at least one to many, many more. I would not, however If I ever were to agree to take such a survey I would not share answers regarding my privacy.
