Can you be liberal and Christian at the same time?

I'm not going to waste more time trying to respond to such nonsense.
Good luck.

 

I've heard some religious conservatives state that their ideology makes the most sense for Christians politically. I guess I can see a few areas where that's true, but I know the Bible fairly well and I don't recall reading anywhere that God wants Christians to enforce those values and views upon non-believers via force of law.

Authoritarianism of any sort is probably farther away from the teachings of Christ than Libertarianism.

 

Good luck indeed! (but I will continue to strive to take the 'luck' out of it, as far as possible)

 

Good luck with that.

 

I'm quite conservative in my life style, yet have no religious beliefs at all.
I'm also at times quite liberal in how I deal with family, friends and even some strangers.
I would have no problem living among Liberals or Conservatives as long as they, or the form of government they allow/promote, refrains from imposing their/its views upon me. And that appears to be what our Federal government has been gradually doing for the last century.

 

This more perfect union of liberal Islam & Christian at the same time is conservatively a pseudoreligion based on pseudoscience teaching everyone an authoritarian tautology diatribe.

 

Having been written at the times they were, biblical texts speak of monarchies and, to some extent, empires. These are the only forms of government that its writers (and therefore the fictitious god that Christians like to pretend was behind these texts) understood, and so the only forms they could be seen as endorsing. The "teachings" attributed to Christ similarly focus on little more than obedience to authority, claiming that rulers are divinely appointed and that people should pay their taxes (it was a time of rebellion and war against Rome, after all).

 

I didn't see any sense in answering Ndividual's question (to me) regarding the OP, because there is so much mythology that has to be sorted from reality, in a consideration of the OP.

However, does your statement underlined above stand up to scrutiny?

1. "Love God and love one-another"

2. "Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called the children of God"

3. "It's easier to thread a needle with a ship's cable than for a rich man to enter the Kingdom of Heaven".

4. "My kingdom is not of this world"

5. "Are you not aware I can call on my Father, and he will immediately send me twelve legions of angels..."

6. "Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's".

Only the last of these would fit your criteria.

As to the fictitious God; certainly orthodox Christian teaching is hopelessly schizophrenic, in its identification of Jesus with the genocidal Old Testament God of the Hebrews - which is why one of the early compilers of the evolving New Testament canon, Marcion, rejected the OT entirely.

 

It was Paul - Romans 13- that inspired the whole "divine right" nonsense. This had nothing to do with the teachings of Christ however.

 

NT writers wanted you to pay your taxes and obey legal authority so you wouldn't get yourself killed. Practical advice. I've noticed that when the political left is in power, they insist that we obey the laws and pay taxes, too. I guess it depends on who's in charge, doesn't it?

 

It depends what your definition of a liberal is.

Hard core authoritarians probably wouldn't make good Christians. Most Democrats and some Republicans are definitely authoritarians these days. Liberal or conservative doesn't really matter in that case.

I think if one is more about imposing their personal will and beliefs upon others, it wouldn't be a very good example of how a Christian should act.

 

Act like Mr Ed...….maybe as nearly 20 years later some source of truth M.A.G.A. scheme after the Federal Lynching churchstate of hate in protecting Arab terrorists, who in all statistical probability were training flying carpets for Islam that threatened POTUS & to nuke Temple Mount to protect & serve thieving US Constitution arsonists; might as well be from a talking horse as much as any liberal or conservative republican or democratic character source.

 

Considering the extremely wide range of Christians and the lack of adherence to the supposed morals imagined I see no reason every possible political position can't fit...and if not then just do as every other Christian does and pick the parts you like.

 

Not only is it possible, it is actually more likely than being right wing.

 

What is the Liberal doctrine?
and
What is your definition of Right wing?

 

How about this:

The Left promotes sufficient and just access to the world's vital resources for all.
The Right, perceiving (mistakenly IMO) this to be impossible, promotes individual enterprise as the arbiter of said access to the necessities.

(Note: the first concept is likely to be conflated (falsely) as promoting equality of outcome, rather than of opportunity, by the Right).

But politics becomes more partisan as an economy increasingly fails to deliver good results for a significant number, as at present (eg in the "rust -belt") , yet we are all driven by the instinct for self-preservation, and different solutions are required for different groups in the community - a difficult task for government.

[There is nothing new under the sun; read about the attempts of Tiberius Gracchus to achieve fairer access to land, in ancient Rome. ]

 

Nothing personal, but I am going to ignore your questions. Instead, I will clarify my own comments by saying that I think being "Christlike" (or at least attempting to live his message) would make one more empathetic and compassionate. I think that would push one toward being more liberal. I sense a lack of these qualities both coming from the right and in the right wing political messages being used today.

But you,no doubt, are onto a key point: Where is the true center, anyway? I think so many right wingers have gone so far right that it skews the perception. Not that this isn't being reflected somewhat on the left, because it is.

 

Could it not be that so many left wingers have gone so far left that what they perceive to be the true center has been skewed to the left?The only reason I ask questions is because so many words we use today have quite broad definitions and words like left wing and right wing can be interpreted as synonymous with right/wrong vs wrong/right or good/evil vs evil/good depending on who is using/reading them.

 

Hmm,no, I don't think so. The right wing messaging I often focused on rolling back existing laws to 50 years ago, and often relies completely on suspension of empathy. No, I think the fact that the right is being pushed further right is a larger phenomenon than its counterpart at the other end.

 

This Christian Nation in being liberal & Christian at the same time certainly has discovered a schizoid spacetime occupation with it's national religion of KKK churchstate of hate lynching enforcement protecting & serving Arab terrorists that threatened POTUS & to nuke Temple Mount prior to 9/11 in order for their second coming jihad crusade of thieving US Constitution - old glory arsonists in making a Nazington, Drugs of Christianity swastika up Uranus court to be supreme in it's Islamidiotocracy more perfect union of liberal Islam Christiananality pedophile mentalities.

 

Without knowing what laws you're referring to I can't really comment on that.
How much government empathy and compassion is enough?

 

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So lily brilliant white to have such liberal cognitive dissonance protecting & serving Arab terrorists of 9/11 & those KKK churchstate of hate thieving US Constitution - old glory arsonists in that US Christian Nation lynching enforcement tradition......

 

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