Can you name something "Good" about Islam?

No kidding, you asked a question about Christian people being abused by Muslims and I showed you evidence.

 

Not true, http://www.gotquestions.org/Jesus-Jews-only.html To the Jew first, then Gentiles.

The original language of that means 'little pets', hardly a derogatory name.

Cite?

That was a fulfillment of Isaiah 53:7

He was oppressed and afflicted,
yet he did not open his mouth;
he was led like a lamb to the slaughter,
and as a sheep before its shearers is silent,
so he did not open his mouth.

Off the top of my head, He associated with the Samaritan woman at the well, and the Roman centurian. Of the Roman He said he had not seen such great faith even in Israel.

 

That is absolute poppycock. All religious and non-religious people can peacefully co-exist in a society where there is no distinction between them under the social contract of society so long as the people agree to abide by the social contract.

As we know in America today one of our greatest problems is the nefarious imposition of "Christian" theological beliefs into our statutory laws (e.g. marriage and anti-abortion legislation). Islamophobia is rampant in many Christian communities. Religious leaders like the Rev Hagee openly preach hatred against Muslims. This thread itself is based upon hatred of Muslims as it was estabished based upon ignorant bigotry and hatred.

 

Under Sharia Law, 'infidels' are second class citizens, one Egyptian mullah wants to bring back the jiryzah tax on non-Muslims. Talk to an Egyptian Copt about all the peaceful co-existance with Muslims that only exists in your head. Are you for gays being killed and Sharia Law's treatment of women, little more than gender apartheid?

No, as you fabricated.

Funny, for 5,000 years marriage was seen as between men and women, was that part of the Christian theological plot? For most of our history abortion was rightly seen as murder, and is condembed as far back as the Hippocratic Oath.

Cite? It seems you have a phobia against Christians.

Cite? You seem much better at vile personal investive than facts.

Christians have just as much right to be involved with public policy issues as anyone, get over it.

 

Please note that I stated "Tea Party Republicans" but to clarify I will be more specific and only refer to Tea Party Republicans in Congress based upon their legislative agenda and proposals. Congressional Tea Party Republicans clearly reflect an anti-women, anti-gays, anti-Muslim, anti-black, anti-Hispanic, anti-poor, anti-small enterprise, anti-Constitution agenda. Now if that is what an individual supports then that is what they support. If not then they should disassociate themselves from the Tea Party Republicans in Congress like Ted Cruz, Paul Ryan, and Rand Paul.

I would suggest being more up to date on hate crimes being committed in the United States.

According to the FBI hate crime statistics 11.6% of the hate crimes based upon religious bias were against Muslims that only represent slightly more than 1/2% of all Americans.

Compare that to the 9% of hate crimes committed against all Christians (2.6% against Protestants and 6.4% against Catholics) that comprise over 75% of all Americans.

Muslims are second only to Jews (62.4% of religious hate crimes are against Jews in the US) when it comes to religious persecution in the United States. American Christians really need to look in the mirror before accusing people in other nations of religious persecution.

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/hate-crime/2012/topic-pages/victims/victims_final

When it comes the religious persecution American Christians represent a monument of hypocracy with their finger-pointing at religious persecution in other nations.

 

Back up and cite, don't just make baseless charges. The most anti-Constiution guy in Washington is Obama, who the Tea Party is opposing.

I support all three of those guys. Why would I, a hispanic, do that if they are really anti-Hispanic? Shoot, Ted Cruz himself is a Hispanic.

Yes, and Muslims are responsible for most of the terror being done worldwide.

Nonsense, there is a worldwide campaign of real hate crimes including death against Christans at the hands of Muslims. It is like an ongoing 'Kristallnacht', and you don't care.

 

I take the Jesus character at his word. He said that he was sent only to the Jews and he treated Gentiles like dirt. When the majority of the Jewish followers dumped him he had to seek a new audience but he never embraced the Gentiles.

 

The story about the Roman centurion actually destroys the traditional doctrine of what it takes to be saved. The Roman centurion put Jesus on the spot by forcing him to show that he could do some of the things he had been claiming that he could do. Notice that the centurion didn't do any prayer rituals, works, or even have faith. In essence he simply commanded Jesus to heal his servant. The servant didn't know Jesus from a tree stump and therefore had no reason whatsoever to believe in him or to pray to him like he was some god. He simply suffered while the centurion and Jesus discussed their supposedly powers.

So if Jesus actually saved the guy from his affliction that proves that you, as a sinner, don't have to do anything. Someone else can save you by exercising their own faith, like Abraham saved Lot and his skanky daughters.

 

When people resort to the use of terror is it because that is the only means they have to wage a conflict against their perceived enemies or is it just because they are nasty rotten people?

 

I think you are stretching things a little bit. There's no muslim "worldwide campaign of real hate crimes against Christians". There are certainly a number of incidents where muslims have engaged in converted violence against Christians but those have been mostly in black Africa. That's probably more of a mental health problem than anything else. However, in the major traditional Islamic countries there's no evidence that that is the case. The few incidents in those countries are within normal limits of people just being everyday bad actors. In fact, such violent incidents are probably far fewer than in most American cities. In other words, you as a Christian would be safer in Saudi Arabia or Turkey or Morocco than you would be walking around in a place such as Orlando, Oakland, Detroit, or Flint.

 

No I didn't

 

Like healing the Roman Centurian's servant? You don't know what you're taking about.

The church expanded in earnest to Gentiles in the apostolic period, after Jesus.

 

It doesn't say the servant was saved, simply healed. From Matt. 8:

5 When Jesus had entered Capernaum, a centurion came to him, asking for help. 6 “Lord,” he said, “my servant lies at home paralyzed, suffering terribly.”

7 Jesus said to him, “Shall I come and heal him?”

8 The centurion replied, “Lord, I do not deserve to have you come under my roof. But just say the word, and my servant will be healed. 9 For I myself am a man under authority, with soldiers under me. I tell this one, ‘Go,’ and he goes; and that one, ‘Come,’ and he comes. I say to my servant, ‘Do this,’ and he does it.”

10 When Jesus heard this, he was amazed and said to those following him, “Truly I tell you, I have not found anyone in Israel with such great faith. 11 I say to you that many will come from the east and the west, and will take their places at the feast with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven. 12 But the subjects of the kingdom will be thrown outside, into the darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.”

13 Then Jesus said to the centurion, “Go! Let it be done just as you believed it would.” And his servant was healed at that moment.


Note verse 11 destroys the silly idea that Jesus didn't care about gentiles.

 

Nonsense, here is a list of 37 Muslim nations where Christians are persecuted. No Muslim nation had freedom of religion as we know it in the West.

http://www.wnd.com/2014/01/37-muslim-nations-persecuting-christians/

The inbreeding inherent in Islam doesn't help: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...essor-Steve-Jones-warns-inbreeding-risks.html

There are bad neighborhoods in every nation, but there is no way a Christian can wear a cross, build a church or conduct an evangelistic meeting in Saudi Arabia. I have heard of Bibles being confiscated at Saudi airports and run through a paper shredder. IMHO no Saudi money should be used to build a mosque in the West until Christians have that same right there.

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I think it is a nasty, rotten religion, unless you approve of gender apartheid and the killing of gays and 'infidels', forced marriages to underage girls, female genital mutilation, etc. Evil is to be resisted, not co-existed with.

 

Well it co-existed pretty well in the past. Spain. Jerusalem - after it was liberated by the Crusaders. Palestine. Non-Mulsim's had it better in the Islamic empire during the Golden Age than they did in Europe, didn't they? Even today, Islam is doing a pretty good job of co-existing.

So...

 

Yes, because Muslims are thrown in prison for spreading their faith, restricted for using religious phrases that Christians also use, and have their communities periodically attacked by the unruly mob after the usual allegation of someone committing blasphemy.

The comparison between Muslims in America and Christians in the Muslim world is of course totally valid.

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What do you call the artifacts of Islamic law throughout the Muslim world being the primary source of anti-Christian discrimination as anything but 'concerted'?

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9F8vgwBiKl0

 

No, it's not a valid comparison, because the Islamic world is not secular. This goes for the Christian communities in the region as well.

See above.

 

The Jews were scattered from Spain to India and from the Black Sea to Ethiopia. That's who Jesus was speaking about in verse 11. He didn't give squat about the Gentiles.

 

FGM isn't a practice dictated by Islamic doctrine. It predates Islam by millennia. Like male circumcision it originated in Egypt and spread through Africa and then other dummies picked it up. Consider how the crazy coot Abraham started the practice of whacking off foreskins to initiate guys into his cult.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_genital_mutilation

Speaking of inbreeding, the Bible is full of it. Almost all of the major characters and their wives are related to each other. Even when the practice was forbidden by the law they continued to do it.

Religious freedom is restricted in Saudi Arabia because for centuries the haj was their main source of income. You can bet that one or a couple of groups have the franchise. So why would they allow competition to their religious racket?

 

You're wrong, read verse 12, the subjects of the kingdom (Jews who reject Jesus) would be thrown out. Others (gentiles) would take their place.

 

Baloney, tell it to an Egyptian Copt. Even in the Middle Ages, non-Muslims were second class citizens and had to pay a special tax. Islam can't even co-exist with other Muslims, look at Iraq with different Muslim sects killing each other left and right. Truly a fulfillment of prophecy from Genesis 16, speaking of Ishmael:

12 He will be a wild donkey of a man;
his hand will be against everyone
and everyone’s hand against him,
and he will live in hostility
toward all his brothers.”

 

From Wikipedia:

"Although its origins are pre-Islamic, it became associated with Islam because of that religion's focus on female modesty and chastity, and is found only within or near Muslim communities."

You mean like we do in the US routinely? Is that the same thing to you as FGM?

Nice red herring attempt, can we get back to TODAY? From Wikipedia again:

A rough estimate shows that close to half of all Muslims in the world are inbred: In Pakistan, 70 percent of all marriages are between first cousins (so-called "consanguinity") and in Turkey the amount is between 25-30 percent.[11]

Statistical research on Arabic countries shows that up to 34 percent of all marriages in Algiers are consanguine (blood related), 46 percent in Bahrain, 33 percent in Egypt, 80 percent in Nubia (southern area in Egypt), 60 percent in Iraq, 64 percent in Jordan, 64 percent in Kuwait, 42 percent in Lebanon, 48 percent in Libya, 47 percent in Mauritania, 54 percent in Qatar, 67 percent in Saudi Arabia, 63 percent in Sudan, 40 percent in Syria, 39 percent in Tunisia, 54 percent in the United Arabic Emirates and 45 percent in Yemen.[12][13]"

Although Saudi Arabia is perhaps the worst offender, religious freedom is severely restricted in all of Islam. Why can't you admit that?

 

Spain, Mexico, etc., are not secular but they don't prevent Muslims from building mosques or throwing Muslims in jail for spreading their faith.

In fact, Muslims at the Vatican have more rights than Christians in Iran, Maldives, Pakistan, or Saudi Arabia.

 

Pastrami, Egypt is a mess right now. If you haven't noticed, Muslims are doing too great there either. But of course you don't actually care about that, so why even bother bringing it up.

Jizya? Oh no! Do you not pay taxes in America?

Muslims pay Zakat, non-Muslims pay Jizya. Jizya is less than Zakat. Cry me a river.

And non-Muslims prospered quite well during the Islamic Golden age. And even contributed to it. Oops. Forget I said anything.

Is this Islam, or politics? Sometimes it amazes me just how ignorant people can be. How much do you actually know about Islamic history following the dead of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)?

20 And as for Ishmael, I have heard thee: Behold, I have blessed him, and will make him fruitful, and will multiply him exceedingly; twelve princes shall he beget, and I will make him a great nation.

Well this is awkward....