Canada expanding assisted suicide law to include the mentally ill, possibly enable 'mature minors'

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  1. TheAngryLiberal

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    https://www.foxnews.com/media/canad...law-include-mentally-ill-enable-mature-minors
    Some of my dearest friends live in British Columbia Canada and I love traveling up there to visit in some of the most beautiful areas in the world, but while free, they complain about their Socialized medicine up there and if your medical needs are not urgent you can be put on an extended waiting list for care. I hadn't heard of this before, but apparently Justin Trudeau is pushing to have depressed mature minors euthanized without consent of their Parents. Canada is looking like it's seriously taking a step off the ledge if this is what they're trying to pass. I had a friend that used Washingtons Death with dignity law when she was suffering terribly with ALS, glad that was available for her, but euthanizing kids, because they're depressed seems like whole new level of crazy Liberal idea's. Liberals are ok with aborting a Baby 5 minutes before actual birth and they seem to be ok with the idea of kids being euthanized for being depressed they didn't get a Playstation of Christmas. Yeah! just another reason I despise Socialism and Liberals. Hmmm! I wonder if Justin Trudeau is depressed, maybe he can get some treatment for that.
     
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    Liberalism is the precursor to becoming a dystopia
     
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    Your claiming that Canadas Prime Minister is pushing to kill “mature minors”…..Care to show ANY proof of that ?

    ANY PROOF ?
     
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    Yeah! and they sure seem to be lacking in any respect for Human life, especially the unborn and those too young to make a rational decision about euthanasia without any imput by their parents. A lot of kids get depressed, but a lot of times it's just a phaze they're going through and they get over it, Justin Trudeau wants to skip that phaze and get right to meat and pototoes of euthanizing those dang spoiled brats.
     
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    From the article : the bill would allow "mature minors" to be euthanized by state doctors without the consent of their parents. Love your name btw.
     
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    Well! Liberals support are ok with aborting a unborn life right up to the point of birth, so it's not hard to imagine Justin Trudeau supporting a bill to kill depressed mature minors (kids) without their parents consent.
     
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    Thanks!

    Charles Camosy Is a religious zealot and is literally making this up from whole cloth. The bill allows assisted suicide, and he jumps to the grand conclusion that teens can now get medically assisted suicide if they have a mental illness.

    Thats a six degrees of Kevin Bacon that anyone with a basic sensibilities finds offensive

    The right needs to stop making things up to get outraged about, and to solicit votes.

    Example 9,289,674,562 why we need a fairness doctrine again in the United States
     
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    That “right up to the point of birth” is made up by the right

    So in the same vein, why did “pro-life” conservatives creat abortion bans without exceptions for the life of the mother ?
     
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    A fairness doctrine would shut down the left wing media.

    Check this out, it's not just the guy you disagree with who is saying this, but the Toronto Star.

    Do you see a time when far left liberals will be deciding who should live and die?

    My mother-in-law is depressed and suffers from dementia, schizo and paranoia, her life is miserable. I see her torment every day, so why should I need a doctor's note to end her misery when I can do it right now?

    And another thing, we've already seen kids get body parts chopped off with a mere minimum of psych eval and now they regret it. So a Canadian doc sees a patient once and puts him or her to death. Other than serial murderers and mass shooters, is there anyone the left doesn't want to kill?
     
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    Leave it to Fox News to drum up outrage about something which is IMHO very important. The right to die with dignity, at will, vs the bs someone else has to keep someone alive and suffering.
     
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    Liberals and Pro abortion groups have nobody, but themselves for Roe v Wade being overturned by the Supreme Court, because instead of common sense abortions being allowed they decided that fully developed Babies in the womb late term were ok to abort even if there's no threat to the life of the mother. Funny! when we hear Liberals screaming about Black Lives Matter, but at only 13% of the population, Black women account for 38.5% of the abortions committed in the United States, so that BLM outrage is nothing but a bunch of Hogwash as far as I'm concerned. If a Woman is raped and a crime has been committed, she should be able to have an abortion immediately and the rapist prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law or if her life is in jeopardy then within reason get an abortion early before the infant becomes a completely viable human in the womb before murdering it. There are many ways to prevent births, but abortions shouldn't be an option except in the most extreme cases, but Liberalism has created a society where it's accepted that abortions doctors can stick a vacuum and other gripping tools up into a Womb and suck or rip the living infant out in parts in the 3rd trimester. Canada seems to be wanting to take the state sanctioned murder of unborn and young children to the next level with their euthanasia bill, but it doesn't surprise me that this is being discussed in Socialist Hellholes like Canada is becoming.
     
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    Post links to your claims that "mature minors" who are "depressed" could be euthanized by Canadian doctors.
     
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    Doesn’t Canada also have a private healthcare system with insurance similar to that in the US?
     
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    The OP is claiming "mature minors" can be euthanized for "depression".
    ????
     
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    It's not law yet, but it's being proposed by Paliament and discussed that children as young as 12 years old with psychiatric disorders ( depression ) can be allowed to access to state sanctioned Euthanasia without their parents consent.
    Right here in the title of this article it mentions mentally ill, mature minors ( Depression is considered a mental disorder )
    https://www.foxnews.com/media/canad...law-include-mentally-ill-enable-mature-minors
    and here they say they want to reduce the age to 12 as being a mature minor.
    https://www.dyingwithdignity.ca/blog/pr_mature_minors/
     
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    So the assumption is that if Canada's DWDC" gets their way "depressed" "mature minors" (whatever the hell that means} will have the legal right to be euthanized by Canadian doctors?



    Dying With Dignity Canada | It's your life. It's your choice.
    https://www.dyingwithdignity.ca


    Dying With Dignity Canada (DWDC) is the national human-rights charity committed to improving quality of dying, protecting end-of-life rights, ...
     
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    "The mature minor doctrine

    "Is a rule of law found in the United States and Canada accepting that an unemancipated minor patient may possess the maturity to choose or reject a particular health care treatment, sometimes without the knowledge or agreement of parents, and should be permitted to do so.[1] It is now generally considered a form of patients rights; formerly, the mature minor rule was largely seen as protecting health care providers from criminal and civil claims by parents of minors at least 15.[2]

    Jurisdictions may codify an age of medical consent, accept the judgment of licensed providers regarding an individual minor, or accept a formal court decision following a request that a patient be designated a mature minor, or may rely on some combination. For example, patients at least 16 may be assumed to be mature minors for this purpose,[3] patients aged 13 to 15 may be designated so by licensed providers, and pre-teen patients may be so-designated after evaluation by an agency or court. The mature minor doctrine is sometimes connected with enforcing confidentiality of minor patients from their parents.[4]

    Contents
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mature_minor_doctrine
     
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    And....? Whats your question Izzy
     
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    Canada and the US
    Now where credible have I read that a "mature minor" who suffers from depression will be classified as suffering from a :"mental illness" and could qualify for being euthanized by a Canadian doctor.
     
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    You selectively what you wanted for the article in reference to Mental disorders, but you left out the preceding paragraph where it clearly states this:
    It also does not allow minors alone to request/use MAID to end their suffering.

     
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    You’re making things up to fit your narrative. Currently there are only 7 states the do NOT have laws regarding terms on when an abortion is allowed. All other states have bans after 24 weeks.

    https://www.axios.com/2022/05/14/abortion-state-laws-bans-roe-supreme-court
     
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    Well! that's 7 states TOO! many that allow that barbaric practice and to think of a unborn infant not understanding what's going on and that the vacuum hose coming into their mothers womb is there to rip apart their body, because it's mother has decided it's not worth giving birth to is absolutely sickening.
     
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    Actually, The news article made that claim. Or didn't you read it? Canada wants to create government assisted suicide for folks who are minors who don't have to have parental consent. Hmm.. we've seen this moving before...
     
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    The citation was first line of the quote you made.
     

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