Cancel Culture, Safe Spaces, etc... and Jews

I find it remarkable how so many of the people we saw rightly speaking against college kids calling for canceling people, demanding censorship and being against free speech, and ridiculing safe space demands etc, are now doing the same thing now that the target group has switched from black to Jew.

Why? Why the lack of consistency?

I on the other hand am consistent. Black people behaving badly shouldn't be excused by handwaving references to the history of racism and Israel behaving badly should not be excused by handwaving references to the Holocaust.

Racism against others should not be used as an excuse for black racists, and anti-Semitism against others shouldn't be used as an excuse for the dehumanization or bad behaviour or hatred against Palestinians.

 

I agree with you. The problem in your post is the use of the word "racism". Racism should not be an excuse for prejudice.

"Racism" has and has always had a very specific meaning that white supremacists have been trying to change. And they might one day succeed in changing it. Especially after Trump has been trying to make white supremacism mainstream. But there is no need for us to help them.

 

These groups are calling for the destruction of Jerusalem. In addition, they are disrupting the lives of innocent people by blocking roads.

I hate it that Palestinians are being made to suffer. However, there do not appear to be any good alternatives. Hamas, among others, is calling for the destruction of Jerusalem and they have chosen to do that in and from Palestine. I have heard very little criticism of Hamas even though they are the cause of all of the destruction.

 

Is this some kind of joke? First of all, why just white people? Are there no other races with racists among them? Think Asians.

Second, the ONLY people trying to define what racism is is the left. An attack against Obama is racist, or so the left says. An attack on Trump is not. On top of that, for some odd reason an attack on Vivek, Allen West, Ben Carlson and Mia Love is not racist. Think about that real carefully and see if you can come up with a reason why that is. Also, accusations of racism are used by the left to shut people down. A person can’t even make a thread on this board about a black person without some lib inferring the person who made it is a racist.

BTW, it only took you 16 minutes and the first response to this thread to drag Trump into this. Sadly, that’s not even close to being a record.

 

Because they aren't being attacked because of their race, simple.

 

I don't recall people attacking Obama because of his race, but what I do recall is him capitalizing his race and libs voting for him for no other reason than his race.

 

Sure. There is quite a bit of Asian supremacy in ethnically Asian countries.

I don't know what "attack against Obama" you're talking about so I can't comment. At first I thought you meant birtherism. Which is clearly racist. But I don't recall Trump ever been accused of having born in another country just because of the color of his skin.

In another planet, maybe... but not another country.

 

What does skin color have to do with birtherism? The left made the same claim against Cruz as far as I recall. ANY candidate will be questioned about their place of birth if there are concerns.

 

Sociologically the term racism is more specific than prejudice. Laypersons use the terms interchangeably, but in social sciences racism involves prejudice imposed upon an ethnic group of people with less power, and that racism is often systematically used to keep them in a disadvantaged position. Hatred of the group in power is never racism, it's just prejudice. White people are in power in the United States. Perhaps elsewhere, like an asian-dominated country, there could be racism against white people there, hypothetically. But not in the US as long as social power is predominantly held by white persons.

 

Apparently white people and Jews don't deserve "safe spaces" or the ability to feel safe on college campuses.

 

Perhaps it's too late in the day for me but can you explain this again for a layman, penguin?

 

Could you please clarify what the topic of this thread is?

Its kinda all over the place.

 

White people and Jews?

If there is one thing I've learned since October 7th, is that Jews are the whitest of White people. They seem to attract very special hatred and attention. That's like being Super White.

 

What nonsense! Cruz was born in Canada. NOBODY, not even Cruz, disputes that. So it was a matter of legality. Birtherism was a matter of Obama's skin color. There was NO other reason to question where he was born.

As usual, the desperation on the right to PROJECT falls flat!

 

I have heard near universal condemnation of Hamas from those who criticize Israel, they just don't focus on it for various reasons, the biggest probably being that Israel is funded by the US and presents itself as a western democracy.

 

Nobody deserves "safe spaces" from criticism or exposure ot opposing ideas, or from others of different races or religions. Many now calling for this for Jews rightly ridiculed it when blacks were demanding it. Many on the right who were correctly ridiculing the "woke" are acting similarly now after swapping black out and Jewish in. We've got calls for cancellation, against free speech, etc etc.

 

There is no excuse for menacing Jewish students on US campuses, simply because they are Jews. Anyone students or professors that violate the rights of others like that, who is here on a guest VISA should have them promptly cancelled and informed to pack their crap up and get the hell out.

Same if they menace Blacks, Browns, or anyone else. Why in the hell some of these folks seem to think that the systematic violation of the rights of others based on race is acceptable in America is simply beyond the ken of right thinking Americans of all walks.

Bill Ackman’s war to make universities accountable has the left panicked.

Good. Universities have been stripped naked of credibility their hatred exposed, and accountability is coming.

'Ackman started his campaign by demanding the resignations of University of Pennsylvania President Liz Magill, Harvard President Claudine Gay and Massachusetts Institute of Technology President Sally Kornbluth after the trio’s shambolic performance before Congress on anti-Semitic harassment on their campuses. Magill and Gay are now gone, and Kornbluth is worried. Penn’s board of trustees pushed Magill out pretty quickly.'

'Gay, being a diversity hire, was harder to remove, but when evidence of multiple instances of plagiarism came out, her goose was cooked. (Ackman is calling for Harvard Corporation “senior fellow” Penny Pritzker — the equivalent of board chair — to resign for her failures in hiring Gay, given the latter’s lack of leadership qualities and questionable academic résumé.) Kornbluth must be getting nervous, but even if she holds on, Ackman’s effort is the first time external pressure removed an Ivy League president.'

She doesn't enjoy Black/Gay privilege.

'Larry Summers was forced out as Harvard president in 2006 after female faculty were unhappy with remarks he made about women’s performance in science, engineering and math, but that was internal pressure.'

Of course, Larry Summers is one of the sharper guys that academia has produced. Of course they had to push him out.

'A world in which Ivy League presidents have to care what people outside their institutions think is a new world indeed and not a very welcome one to residents of the Ivy bubble. Ackman is doubling down. With help from artificial-intelligence technology (and his extensive and well-paid research staff), he’s looking for plagiarism among university administrators and faculty, and odds are he’ll find quite a bit. As a defensive move, the left-leaning press is trying to normalize plagiarism and stigmatize concerns about it as a “conservative weapon.” Sounds like it knows there’s a widespread problem.'

Sounds like the Poison Ivy League picked a fight with the wrong Billionaire.

 

Yes. Both Jews and Blacks shouldn't be menaced on US campuses simply because of their race/religion. And I see vast exageration of this happening to both and attempts to hide behind allegations of both as shields against criticism for bad behaviour. But it comes from opposite sides, and often those pushing it for one push against it for the other. I find that very hypocritical.

Black people can get a way with a lot by accusing anyone who criticizes their actions as being a racist, and Israel and its supporters can get a way with a lot by accusing anyone who criticizes their actions as being anti-simetic.

 

Everyone is free to criticize.
No one is free to menace, attack, or threaten.

 

Agreed. And nobody should be crybullying.

 

Are you claiming that these menaced Jewish students are 'cry bullying'?


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BS. Cruz participated in the 2016 presidential debates, do you remember that? Questions arose and the story came out. Questions also arose about Obama and a quick search got me to a Time article that it was originally started by Clinton supporters. Look it up.

Tell me, when Elizabeth Warren, you might know her as the person who questioned the integrity of Dominions voting machines but wasn't questioned or sued over it, when she claimed to be an injun, did anyone anywhere, cry racism when we all made fun of her? No, and that's because she's white.

You're everything is racist has run out of steam.

 

What a load of bullshit.

 

That sociological definition is recent. For the longest time "racism" was just the plural form for "racist". And they both meant the same. It referred to anyone that thought X race was better than Y race or X race was worse than Y race. Thats it.

It was those "studying" "sociology" that decided to change the meaning. And funnily enough, sociologists are all made up of left wingers. Not right wingers like Golem tries to portray as the only ones trying to change the definition. It is nothing more than a made up definition meant to continue the use of the race card. Its also a definition that assumes racism will never end. That those in power, will always facilitate racism. Its a political ideology far more than it being based on any sort of real science.

With the exception of a few disciplines with in sociology, sociology is in itself crap science with a lot of it based on assumptions.