Candace Owens - Liberty University Convocation

Steve Jobs, like Gates, dropped out because he was making enough money after starting Apple that he didn't need a degree. Though, unlike Gates, Jobs didn't actually do any of the work that created that money. Steve Wozniak did all the work.

Mark Zuckerberg also dropped out because he was making large amounts of money running a company. Though, like Jobs, he didn't actually do any of the work, and just stole it ll.

Mukesh Ambani dropped out to work for his father, who already had a successful business. His father was the one who built the company up, not him.

Paul Allen, like Gates, was a gifted programmer even before college, and dropped out to found microsoft with him.

 

i had no first hand knowledge she said it formed to assist blacks shoot the KKK, but on that you proved she said it.

Without more research by me, what she said will have me attempt to locate the truth.

It formed in 1871 and had an interest in training people to shoot accurately. I do not recall the KKK having much activity nor making trouble in 1871. Most of what we hear of today took place post 1900 to around 1920.

So you did not know whites were lynched. Damned few Democrats know a thing about that.
What is remarkable is you do not know the history of the NRA nor that whites had been lynched in substantial numbers.

Why would the NRA training blacks annoy you so much? I plan to look into the NRA to see if it was racist at all.

 

I could have bought an Apple for my company in 1984. Even then both it and Microsoft aimed at the market differently. Apple went after the youth and education. Microsoft aimed at business.

I evaluated both Apple and Microsoft in 1984 when I added computers to my own business.

I looked at the software available in Apple and Microsoft and went to Microsoft.

I realize Wozniak was behind the system more than Jobs was.

I understand how rich a drop out can become. I mentioned it first due to that reality.

Gates and Allen came close to being a failure. They had a conflict with IBM that damned near sunk them.

 

The truth is she MADE it up. Even Wayne LaPierre did not say she spoke the truth.

It is very clear she lied. Perhaps you don't want to accept that fact because you admire her so.

Oh I see, and you do eh?

I was a card carrying member of the NRA so you can quit your assumption. I know enough to know that Owens LIED. It wasn't started as a civil right movement....at all.

More assumptions from you. I note though that you are unable to defend Owens on her stupidity about asking blacks to name a KKK member that hurt them. If that is what she say (per your post), then she is an ultimate moron.

Who said it annoy me if it was true. The truth is that Owens LIED, at that is what annoying. So she just woke up one day, decide to become a republican and decide to join...the NRA?? Laughable. Any reasonable person could see through that fakeness. Not all conservatives are NRA members so she is clearly stereotyping and pandering all in the name of money. It would serve you well to do more research on Owens.

 

Candace seems persuaded the young that do not like Trump will come to him once they understand what took place. This is why Democrats fight so hard to counter the innocent report made by mueller. She thinks due to their youth the hard shell of being a bigot has not yet rooted. As we age, and are Democrats, as we get older, it gets harder to tell others we were Democrats who were full of horse digested food. We were full of it then and now if one still is a voting Democrat.

She is at the still hopeful age the youth will change this early. i do not know if it can happen this fast in time to convert them to republicans. She talks to them a lot though so time will tell.

But she is not the only young person that rejects the ideology trained into every democrat from a young age.

 

Listen to her recording a few more times. i was going to restate in my words what she said but want to do better.

What is the history of the NRA?
The primary goal of the association would be to "promote and encourage rifle shooting on a scientific basis," according to a magazine editorial written by Church. After being granted a charter by the state of New York on November 17, 1871, the NRA was founded.

If you notice,. New York City at the era of 1871 was a super long distance from the South.

It would be nice to find out why she said it was to defeat the KKK.

Why did you speak for Wayne rather than actually quote the man?
I am not nearly as judgmental as you clearly are. What is the danger if she was wrong? You say lie but why not simply say wrong? There is a chance she has a good reason to believe it.

I am suspicious of her claim since in 1871 and in New York City the KKK could not have been much of a factor.

Why the hell are you such the enemy of one black woman?
I merely have your word you were in the NRA.

What if I busted your chops saying you lied to the forum?

I am not remotely as hard ass as you are nor nearly so judgmental.

This woman has you really upset she speaks to the nation.

So if one can't prove the KKK harms them, they can lie by reporting it harms them? I do not get that strange logic.

I am,80. I have met actual Hells Angels people. I would never defend any of them. But prior to accusing people, even the KKK, one has to prove they got harmed. I agree with her view on this. I was not harmed by Hells angels either since one of them had joined our union and did not hide who he was.

I support the NRA mission but as of this date, never joined them. I find it very strange for a former card carrying NRA member to speak like he hates that operation.

 

Strawman...where did I say I hate the NRA? I do not like Wayne LaPierre and neither does the members that I know because of his money grabbing way (this is why I'm a "former" card carrying member). I point out to you that Owens is a liar and a fraud. If you do not like it, hey whatever float your boat. Why did she feels the need to mention about the NRA if she wasn't pandering? If she was smart as you say she is, she should have done her research. Who feed her this lie and for what reason?? Like I said, not one email or letter I have ever received from the NRA mentioned about this whatsoever. You would think it be a great highlight and they would mentioned it. Not sure why you want to blindly defend this woman without doing more research on her.

Oh...and if they support blacks to fight against the KKK, why did they support Reagan to put a ban on carrying openly in CA to protect themselves. Since you seem to think you know more about the NRA than I, answer me this question.

 

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I have seen Candace Owens speak on the same platform with the Brilliant Charlie Kirk. Student Democrats have no skill to defeat his outstanding education.

Candace is now a key person in this group. It strikes fear in the heart of Democrats. We have time to attract a vast number of students.

Candace faces the bigotry coming from Democrats but she is a very strong well foundationed young woman. And her bonus is she is black and very literate.

 

When a man quits and engages in smearing the CEO, it can sound like bigotry or prejudice or hey, honesty.

I smeared a former CEO of SACBOR when i was a director.I caught him red handed lying to me and my fellow board of Directors Are you very angry with Pat Dolan? How can you expect those reading you to be angry at Wayne?

If She is wrong i am giving her grace by saying she could well simply be making an error about the purpose of the NRA. Her error is not significant to make her my enemy.

I see she really upset you since you persist in blasting her over that comment she made.;

You clearly ignored my comment I will investigate her words. But it does not fry my toast as it cooks yours.

So rest assured I plan to see who told the truth. As to Reagan. why drift off topic. This was never about the KKK.

I could tell you many things about SACBOR that I know for facts too. Do you wish me to divert as you did to the NRA?

I listened to a good number of things Candace said in the past but had yet to run into her statement about the NRA that you abandoned.

By way, your claim I claim to know more about NRA than you know has no foundation at all. I would think as you paid dues you know a lot more than i know.

 

Jobs didn't actually do any of the work on the Apple I computer. Wozniak basically had the entire system finished before they even met. Jobs just helped him market it, and tricked him into giving him half the money, and then forced him out of the company, and claimed his, and all his other employees' work as his own.

The truth is that Steven Jobs couldn't even program a damn clock radio, let alone a computer. He was the front man, shakings ands, and making all the money, while his workers did all the actual work. He made sure all of apple's patents named him as the primary creator as well.

 

It is my belief that Wayne LaPierre can easily collect more income from the members than he should collect.

A major problem with all member organizations as they attract more and more revenue, the wily CEOS manage to use excuses to justify their higher and higher incomes.

This is not unique to the NRA. This could be what triggered North to resign.

I do not advocate for member groups to get hit that hard by the CEO.

But having myself been party to setting CEO incomes in member organizations,. I know what the dog and pony show looks like.

The group that recommends the CEO income normally is a side group. Past leaders are often asked to form a special group to give the appearance nothing is wrong. Then they tell the full board of directors what they recommend. Naturally all CEOS get to discuss it with this with the small group formed for the sole purpose to set income.

We used professional books that went into the compensation packages for such CEOs. A wily CEO will cause the staff to bloat to lay claim his pay has to be more because he manages more workers. I would watch how many workers work for NRA for one thing to see if the staff is increasing. This can be a tool used to grab more membership money.

The figures for Wayne may well include along with cash, a retirement plan, funds for his auto including all auto expenses. Lavish expenses to travel and expensive meals consumed on the road. All of Wayne's health insurance is covered by members. Anyway 20 percent can easily be part of what the press posted as his income that covers things like I named.

These types of men join other groups too. They join groups for such CEOs and this also causes them more paid expenses and deluxe hotels and meals.

 

That in no way shocks me; A lot that he once owned in Palo Alto is currently on the market for 9.5 million dollars. And it has trees on the land that will not be removed. So the size of a new home is limited to smaller than a lot of that size routinely has on it. It could still be owned by his widow but I have not checked that out.

What did Apple workers think about Jobs? You speak very bitterly about him.

 

The Mulford act was not about the KKK. It was a product of the Black Panthers walking around armed and showing up at the State Capitol armed to the teeth.

But to clear up your question you should have known all about, this should help you learn about it.

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The Mulford Act was a 1967 California bill that repealed a law allowing public carrying of loaded firearms. Named after Republican assemblyman Don Mulford, the bill was crafted in response to members of the Black Panther Party who were conducting armed patrols of Oakland neighborhoods while they were conducting what would later be termed copwatching.[1] They garnered national attention after the Black Panthers marched bearing arms upon the California State Capitol to protest the bill.[2][3][4]

AB-1591 was authored by Don Mulford (R) from Oakland, John T. Knox (D) from Richmond, Walter J. Karabian (D) from Monterey Park, Alan Sieroty (D) from Los Angeles, and William M. Ketchum (R) from Bakersfield,[5] it passed both Assembly (controlled by Democrats 42:3 and Senate (split 20:20) and was signed by Governor Ronald Reagan on July 28. The law banned the carrying of loaded weapons in public. [6]

Both Republicans and Democrats in California supported increased gun control. Governor Ronald Reagan, who was coincidentally present on the capitol lawn when the protesters arrived, later commented that he saw "no reason why on the street today a citizen should be carrying loaded weapons" and that guns were a "ridiculous way to solve problems that have to be solved among people of good will." In a later press conference, Reagan added that the Mulford Act "would work no hardship on the honest citizen."[7]"

Found on Wikipedia titled the Mulford Act

 

Thank you for that. Your response to this ignorant post is spot on.
Funny, when she was accused of thinking Hitler OK during that House hearing, she responded that the Rep must think Black people are too stupid to check the Internet. Guess that goes for that poster as well.

As for Blacks in the Republican party, the Republican Party has been doing black male and female firsts for generations. Colin Powell anyone? How about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Condoleezza_Rice It's just that the MSM would never make a big deal about it.

The point is, s/he was responding to a post suggesting she cannot be seen as accomplished as she didn't finish college. I would hope you would agree, particularly with the link TC provided with a list of billionaires that did not either. that finishing college is not a qualifier for the ability to become accomplished. And Candace is a kid. I'm a little worried people listen to her. But she has plenty of time to impress us or not. But college as a qualifier? I don't think so. I hope you do not either.

 

And thank you for the kind treatment none of the Democrats bothered to give to me. I promoted a black and they acted like I was promoting the KKK.

 

How many ??

 

How is opposition to the welfare state opposition to a normal life for disabled people ?

You underestimate people with disabilities most or all of who are capable of living a good life without welare.

 

How many persons of color have actually run as republicans? Herman kain and Ben Carson off the top of my head...for that reason I think that part of your post is not a fair representation

 

Smear? I stated facts. If you think that's smear...meh. Don't know who Pat Dolan is but thanks for the deflection.

Not significant?? LOL!!! she is pulling this line in her agenda to get blacks to join and defend the NRA. All based on lie easily verifiable. You can go on "giving her grace."[/QUOTE]

I'm merely calling a spade a spade.

So investigate instead of defending her.

It is relevant to this discussion.

The NRA is relevant to this discussion. I'm pointing out the lies or fake news if you preferred, that Candace Owens perpetrated.

I thought you said you were going to investigate? I even gave you a youtube link of an interview Fox and Friends conducted. Listen in her own words.

We are not going to discuss this silly "you know than me" business as a diversion.

 

I can agree with this.

 

Oh...please. Do you know how often I get emails and letters from Wayne LaPierre asking for more money for the cause?? Why the hell would I give him more money when all he does is use it to line his pocket? You aren't upset because you aren't a member and was never a member. I know members who ARE upset and is about to stop their "donation."

 

There you go again assuming I know nothing of this. Tell me, is the NRA a second amendment defender or not. That would be a yes or a no. Why did they choose to take open carry away?? Because they were afraid of black power? This during the time when the KKK was active and the harassment of blacks by the KKK was still in full force. It's funny to see how forum righties blast away at CA gun laws, when it was the republicans legislature that supported this law and it was a republican governor who signed the anti open gun bill into law thus starting the gun control laws in CA.

 

She has, however, managed to promote herself into one of the few African Americans who claim to support Trump.

A position that is 180 degrees opposed to where she was three years ago.

Right wing media is so anxious to have a black face to spout their talking points, that they will take just about anyone, and a few folks have realized that this is something they can cash in on!

 

She is hilarious and oh so credible.

Candace Owens at CPAC: Racism Is Over Because ‘I’ve Never Been a Slave’

https://www.thedailybeast.com/candace-owens-at-cpac-racism-is-over-because-ive-never-been-a-slave

 

A lot of his original team left with Wozniak, and many of them call Jobs a complete fraud, that they and Wozniak were the ones who made Apple a success and Jobs takes all the money for himself and claims that he does most of the work. That's why Apple almostwent bankrupt in the last 80's and early 90's, cause all the best programmers and designers walked out,

Literally the ONLY thing that saved the company was all the corporate espionage and theft that Jobs committed. For example, Xerox, not Apple, designed the first MP3 players. Jobs sent spies into their offices and stole the designs and had his team rework them into the first IPod. Xerox took them to court, but couldn;t prove that the designs were stolen, and hadn't patented the designs yet, so there was nothing the court could do.