Capitalism, A Worker's Best Friend?

You're not a socialist. You're a fascist. Please stop with the misinformation.

 

Are you on meth or something?
Me a liberal?

 

I am trying to find a modern school of economic thought that explains my own economic position, at the moment I am thinking that I come closest to being a state welfare capitalist.

 

I think he's young so be nice an help him along!! Its your Christian duty!!

 

Not really sure.
I would describe that as what we have here in the UK.

Perhaps a "mixed economy".

So in the UK, about 40-50% of the economy is the state. And the rest privately owned. Legislation applies to all things economic outside of the black economy.
They are highly integrated.
I think the free market is an ideal. A philosophical construct not an absolute possibility,

The degree to which capitalism and socialism combine economically is subjective, contentious and changes from day to day and country to country.
But I think it exists everywhere to a higher or lesser degree.

I usually use the total tax take as a % or GDP to measure it.

(I think at it's peak the USSR hit around 50%. Equivalent of Scotland today So the degree to which you take it will slide definition from anarchy to communism.

 

Wouldn't the help be mainly for you? Given you tediously call liberals fascist, having a live fascist peddle their hate can only help you come to terms with your folly.

 

socialist and fascist. That describes Mussolini perfectly. Both socialist and fascist are statist and so about the same which is why our Founders made both illegal in America. Has this concept sunken in yet?

 

Fascism and socialism( Mussolini for example) is when business and govt are combined as in Obamacare which liberals unanimously support!
Tough to find out you were wrong all your life? Sorry!!

 

Syndicalism was supported by people even dumber than Marxists. It was blindly pro worker which means higher wages, shorter hours, lower quality, and higher prices. This is the formula that got 120 million killed.

Capitalism is about the consumer. Either you raise his standard of living at the fastest possible rate or you go bankrupt!!
Now you can see why Florida does far better than Cuba. Do you understand?

 

then, those workers that were replaced with 'bots' are placed on gov assistance programs (welfare, housing, food, utilities, health/meds, etc.) which will be paid for through taxes... who gets taxed? yep the few remaining employees, whom will be taxed upwards of 70-80% of their income to pay for the 90% now out of work and on government assistance...

 

wrong of course. tools since the wheel have replaced billions of workers who then got other real jobs. do you understand why we have 97% employment today?

 

every tool since the wheel needed a real person to use it, no jobs lost there...

anywho, how'd you come up with 'billions', any references, and while you're at it, please name the 'real jobs' those billions got after being replaced with tools...

 

only lousy capitalists lose money on border policy.

 

You've been educated on how socialism and fascism are mutually exclusive numerous times now. However, let's try again...

Fascism is a jampot of joviality because of its multiple definitions. To highlight its right wing nature, however, there are several elements we can refer to. I'd first refer to Keserich's definition of fascism as "the reactionary and terroristic dictatorship of finance capital". I'd then describe how fascism is incompatible with socialist political economy. Zanden (1960, American Journal of Economics and Sociology, Vol 19, pp 399-411) is a good source. First, the movement is characterised by anti-intellectualism ("obedience, discipline, faith and a religious belief in the cardinal tenets of the Fascist creed are put forth as the supreme values of a perfect Fascist. Individual thinking along independent lines is discouraged. What is wanted is not brains, daring ideas, or speculative faculties, but character pressed in the mold of Fascism"). That is closer to a worship of alienation. Second, we have the belief in the distribution of innate ability (i.e. the Theory of the Elites where those with a natural talent for ruling rule over the masses). A socialist, on the other hand, appreciates the destructiveness of class. Third, we have a reaction against democracy: "the mass of men is created to be governed and not to govern; is created to be led and not to lead, and is created, finally, to be slaves and not masters: slaves of their animal instincts, their physiological needs, their emotions, and their passions". That aint participatory socialism! Fourth, we have "fascism is in its broadest meaning a revolt against the modern age, against democratisation, secularisation and internationalism". That is conservatism! Fifth, we have corporatism where fascism is defined as "a system of political and economic decision-making based on the representation of organised interest groups in government" (Sarti). Ultimately fascism and economics, unlike socialism, do not go well together. The economics of fascism is actually 'economics by mistake, not design'. But isn't that the case with most right wing schools?

 

so you agree new tools don't cost jobs!! which is why after 2000 years of new tools we still have 97% employment, at least why The Donald is in office.

 

both statist so for all intents and purposes identical and made illegal in America by our genius Founders!

 

right wing?? Mussolini was a socialist and a statist! Tell us where you get confused.

 

socialists and fascists want the govt running everything hence they are identical and illegal in America where we value freedom!.

 

What we have in the United States are capitalists loyal to money and profit only who are not loyal to the nation or its populace.

 

Ignorant on triple level. First, fascism is consistent with capitalism. That was illustrated by Nazi Germany.

Second, even churlish language like 'statist' can't be applied with any credibility. Is anarchism statist? Is market socialism, consistent with Austrian economics, statist?

Third, your attitude is ultimately dangerous. You ignore the genuine threat posed by the rise of the extreme right. Mixing ignorance of political economy and blind support for enablers like Trump, you offer no challenge to their bile.

 

a tool assists a human to do their task, automation removes the human from the equation... get it?

 

1) I get that you are a standard liberal trying to qualify more people for crippling welfare
2) automation has been around for 100 years and we still have 97% employment
3) A farm tractor assists humans and removes about 97% of human race from farming equation.

see why thinking is better left to conservatives and libertarians?

 

goofy wrong of course since fascism is about powerful central govt and capitalism is about freedom from central govt. Why do you invite the same lesson 134 times? Do you want to invite it 135 times now? You know what insanity is-right?

 

how could it be if anarchism is described as a stateless society??? You must think before you ask nonsense questions of an American.

 

Hayek is Austrian economics or free market economics which is opposite of statist market socialism. Do you want to invite the same answer 156 times more times?