Careful! They are coming for your freedom and next your life!

I refer you to the voice of conservatism in discussions in here which refer to the left in wholesale terms. My post which you quoted calls for individual decision-making outside state diktat and not making assumptions about anyone or forcing them to do something against their own conscience. Clearly supporting individual choice, and not speaking for anyone else.
I suggest that not judging others runs directly contrary to the entire concept of a discussion group.
and finally, the new covenant described by Christ and what caused the schism between Jew and Christian is the issue of revenge (eye for an eye).
Since we are discussing Christianity, the public adherence to capital punishment is indicative of the Old Testament and not the New, which delivers forgiveness.
Therefore any claim that anyone who supports capital punishment adheres to Christian principles does not stand up to superficial scrutiny.

 

Oh you got real butt hurt about me calling out your race crap. No you aren't just asking a question you're playing a race card. I am not going to address it because it's absurd outside of calling it what it is.

I see you didn't really address anything else I must have really struck a nerve. But this black white dichotomy is mostly a fabrication.

The way the left has destroyed family destroyed values and destroyed frankly the ethos of our society is through culture.

You specifically asked for legislation which was dishonest. Why else but dishonesty would you narrow it so as to eliminate all of everything that is upstream from politics?

As far as your concept of community that must include everyone that's not a thing it never will be a thing it never has been a thing. Communities are built among people with commonality. Communities don't have to fight with one another as prior to 2008 they mostly didn't.

But in order to make one single mono community you have to destroy everyone else. Because anybody that can't fit into it is a threat to it.

So that's why we have gay communities and Pentecostal communities and communities of parents and all these other different facets it makes life very interesting. I even belongs to several communities based on hobbies. So the model plane flying community is not going to have anything in common with the cake decorating community. So there's no reason to try and RAM those together and pretend like they're the same.

And this goes for any other aspect you want to pick and choose

 

I do not advocate singular communities and never suggested one. ISTM it is you who criticise "the left" for eroding your values and are suggesting a monoculture that is defined by you. As you say, impossible.
I see you aren't ready to discuss, merely to create strawman accusations. I also note that you have both missed my point AND can't answer my question (so try to divert the issues) so I repeat it.
Let's be simplistic...what leftist cultural credos/elements have challenged your list of societal values? and in what way?

 

Sure it does Jesus told people to go and buy a sword did he not?

 

Did he?
Please quote the text to which you refer.

 

As you say, impossible.
I see you aren't ready to discuss, merely to create strawman accusations. I also note that you have both missed my point AND can't answer my question (so try to divert the issues) so I repeat it.
Let's be simplistic...what leftist cultural credos/elements have challenged your list of societal values? and in what way?[/QUOTE]
I said mono community not monoculture.

So thanks for misrepresenting that I appreciate having to sort out straw man fallacies so much fun.

So communities are little subdivisions within a culture. For instance the culture in the US is The melting pot. You either have to have a monoculture or you have to have anarchy that's the only two possibilities that exist. And they can't coexist.

So the melting pot says that someone from this country can move here and become an American and they fit into our culture because it's largely accepting and even to an extent curious about other cultures. So they bring in people in assimilate them into the culture.

You can't have multiculturalism that's not a thing. The other word for multiculturalism is warfare. This is absolutely true across all of human civilization.

Communities are little pieces inside the culture that grew up together on more commonalities. That's why Ethiopian immigrants kind of form Ethiopian immigrant community within the American culture.

FYI I'm not ever going to talk to you about your stupid black white false dichotomy nonsense I despise that racist horse ****. And the only way we evolve past it is to address it in just this manner.

So if you want to wine and cry about me strawmanning your white supremacy then you do you, but I'm going to show the utmost contempt for it. So if you're going to get butt hurt about it please delight me.

 

Well you're the expert on Christianity you tell me.

Also since you wish to try to make the argument that leftist principles are more in line with Christian teachings try to reconcile the lefts embrace of homosexuality and all other manner of perversions with biblical principles. ... I'll wait here...

 

So for the third time, what is it about the left which damages cultural positives?
How are the left damaging communities, families, stability etc etc?

The rest of your posts is bush cover. Are you going to explain Crank's statement I challenged or not?
Here it is again:

We've been talking ever since ... about their dismantling of the power structures of the common man - family, place, private property, industry, community, stability, etc. The articles of security that Progressives have been taught to despise, at their own expense.

 

Please point out that the support for homosexuality is a tenet solely of the left.
Or that Christian teachings say anything at all about the subject.

 

I'm not playing your game, the bible clearly condemns homosexuality.

You want to paint an entire group with certain tenets? I can return the tactic.

But you only want it to be a one way street. Doesn't work that way.

 

I think you will find the Bible does not mention homosexuality.

 

You should read Leviticus 18: 22 and 20: 13

It is in fact mentioned six times three in the Old testament and three in the new

 

We are discussing CHRISTIANITY. As it is represented in left/right USA politics.
NOT the Old Testament which does not support forgiveness.
The left in this case follows the CHRISTIAN word of forgiveness and reject an eye for an eye.
sigh.
Have you not been following the discussion?

 

Now we note that Polydectes cannot explain Crank's post in which he said the urban left sought to "dismantle" these things, (though he agreed with the statement) perhaps the original author who convinced his friend of its truth can convince me.

and perhaps Polydectes, who has attempted to lecture me on what a community is, can elaborate not on the definition of one, but the clear way in which the left seeks to dismantle them.

Must run...busy today. I'll check back in when you have found an answer.

 

Are the goal posts heavy?
Again the Bible condemns homosexuality so if you're trying to argue that leftist principles are more in line with Christian teachings you are failing

 

Please refer to Post 134:
FatBack said: ↑
Well you're the expert on Christianity you tell me.

Also since you wish to try to make the argument that leftist principles are more in line with Christian teachings try to reconcile the lefts embrace of homosexuality and all other manner of perversions with biblical principles. ... I'll wait here..."

Leviticus is Old Testament.
I don't know why I bother.

 

Leviticus is OLD TESTAMENT.
Not Christian.
The left is not in line with OT teaching. It is in line with NEW TESTAMENT teaching.
OK?

 

There is some pretty strong mania going on in this thread. I mean, wow.

This is the internet so one should always expect ridiculous hyperbole and wacky exaggeration, but sometimes it's still an eye-opener.

 

Sure.... It's just a few chapters from war and Peace that somehow got included in the book..

Thank God we have you to define Christianity for us..

 

And many on the left are very much atheist and very much hostile to Christianity so I'm not sure how you would square that with your claim

 

american evangelical christians seem to prefer the old testament including Levitical law and "an eye for an eye.'

 

many on the right are atheist as well, there is a very active ayn rand cult among the republicans.

 

The only way the election results were changed is that more people voted than probably would have without the expanded mail-in voting. So if your problem is that more people got to have a voice in choosing our next president, that kind of sounds un-American. You might to want to rethink this criticism, it makes you look like a totalitarian.

Not sure what you mean here, but I have to assume you're talking about the Capital riot which was instigated by Donald Trump and those who supported his fake election fraud narratives. Trump may not have had the direct intent of starting a riot but is very guilty of extremely gross negligence for the effects his lies had.

Is this about Ashli Babbitt? She disobeyed law enforcement and got shot. Right-wingers tell us that's the consequence of disobeying law enforcement ALL THE TIME. You can find countless examples right on this forum. You yourself might have even said it from time to time.

Nothing new. Right-wingers celebrate the deaths of those shot by police all the time too.

Investigating a riot in the capital building where people died seems perfectly legit. We investigated Benghazi and that wasn't even in America.

Republicans doing literally the exact same thing against non-Trump supporting Republicans.

I agree that this practice is wrong. But, white genocide it is not. Remember, right-wingers constantly remind us that this virus has over a 99% survival rate! And you have to have a bunch of co-morbidities and basically be days away from death already anyway. So there's nothing to worry about.

Some links to the gun taking?

Examples?

A bit of truth here too. But it's just as active on the Trump side of things. Political tribalism is a moron's exercise of the highest order.

That was completely and totally ridiculous, and a sign to me that you should probably take a break from TV and the internet.[/QUOTE]

 

Well, it sure as hell will stop come November when we get some sanity back into the majority roles of our congress with a Republican sweep away of the Marxist regime.

 

Please feel free to share who's doing the dismantling. Who is the perpetrator and who is the victim. Go into detail. So what percentage of the total population are they, what occupations do they have. Who are the dependants and who are the rulers.

Link to evidence please.