Carnage on Gaza border as Palestinians shot dead by Israeli

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  1. yasureoktoo

    yasureoktoo Banned

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    A raiding party led by Zayd set out against Umm in Ramadan. During it, Umm suffered a cruel death. Zyad tied her legs with rope and then tied her between two camels until they split her in two. She was a very old woman. Then they brought Umm’s daughter and Abdallah to the Messenger. Umm’s daughter belonged to Salamah who had captured her. Muhammad asked Salamah for her, and Salamah gave her to him.
    Al-Tabari, Vol. 8, p. 96

    Wonder what the reception was like?
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What part of ... - the people that were shot that I was referring to were not ripping the hearts, nor attempting to rip out the hears, of any Zionists - do you not understand.
     
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    "How does tearing down a fence justify shooting someone..."

    What would the proper response be?
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I know, you think someone should just be allowed to do that before defending oneself.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Water cannons, Tear Gas, Rubber Bullets, Baton's. Something other than lethal force perhaps ?

    Regardless - what have you to say about the thousands of people wounded (some of which were killed) who were not "tearing down a fence" ?

    Indiscriminate killing of civilians ..... 6 Journalists (with "PRESS" in big letters written on their chest) were shot. If that does not tell you how indiscriminate this was ... there is no help for you.
     
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    Showing up with bolt cutters, trying to bomb part of the fence, flying burning kites with swastikas on them claiming they want to burn Jews. These are those 'innocents' you keep talking about.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Do what ? Defending oneself from what.

    6 members of the Press were shot. Your suggestion that these folks - or the people around them for that matter- were trying to rip the hearts out of Zionists and for that they were shot ... is miles further than mind bending and preposterous nonsense.

    Get a grip.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Quit putting words in my mouth (Strawman) while ignoring what I am saying.

    The "Innocents" I am talking about were not engaging in any of those activities ... Such as the 6 journalists that were shot and the people around them.
     
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    How about you? More than 70% of Israeli Jews were born in Israel and many more came to Israel as children. Of those, many have no other citizenship and nowhere else to go.
     
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    Tens of thousands storming the fence is not an activity? Really?
     
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    Lets stick to:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rayhana_bint_Zayd

    Instead of that fake ghetto slang you put up.
     
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    Palestinians lost their Jordanian passports and therefore have no right to live in Jordan.
     
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    "Regardless - what have you to say about the thousands of people wounded (some of which were killed) who were not "tearing down a fence" ?"

    There is too much Fake News, biased reporting on this, for me to be able to know if any, or all, wounded were non-violent.

    It would stand to reason that, even if one were to side wholly on the side of Israel, he would have to admit the likelihood that some people were improperly targeted, or were victims of stray bullets.
     
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    maybe the Jews should go back to Poland
     
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    Seeing how 26 of the killed were Hamas it is hard to say they were all innocent. Hamas wanted people killed. Good for optics.
     
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    I can source you that Israel send the planes to remove the Jews, and I think you're aware of that.
    So it still is Israel who removed the Jews from Arab nations, and not Arabs themselves.

    And so it remains fake propaganda used to sweet talk Jews massively removed Arab civilians.
     
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    LOLOL
    So you showed me wiki, a write in encyclopedia, with a story, without one single reference to the original text the info came from.

    This is common by apologetics , fabricating their own story.

    I prefer to use the original text.
     
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    Does US, Sweden, Denmark, Germany use snipers to shoot 1000's of protesters and killing dozens?... EVER?
     
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    Your source did not lead to anything. And there is nothing wrong with the reliability of wikipedia.
     
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    I do not ever get into Geneva Convention. I do not care about Israeli violating principles, so long as violations of other countries and people are not proportionately discussed, and they are not.

    Israel is doing what it must to protect itself and its people and to survive. End of story.

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    Wouldn't that depend on the purpose of tearing down a fence?
     
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    I'm afraid there is, Islam is a huge exception. The actual writings of the religion are so foul, virtually all is re-written for the gullible west. This is true on Islamic sites as well.

    A dead giveaway is when you are reading something, look for the footnotes, reference to the original text.
    None show up on the BS writings.

    Hmmm wonder why.

    BTW, I have the originals.
     
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    so you dont fault Germany at all for the hundreds of thousands of Jews that left after 1933?
     
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    yasureoktoo Banned

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    BTW, The careful observer will note, I am referencing the original text. Anything can be looked up that way.
    The way you posted it, nothing can be looked up,....Hmmm... Wonder why/

    Tabari 8I:117 - "Dihyah had asked the Messenger for Safiyah when the Prophet chose her for himself... the Apostle traded for Safiyah by giving Dihyah her two cousins. The women of Khaybar were distributed among the Muslims." He sometimes pulled rank to reserve the most beautiful captured women for himself.

    Tabari 9:139 - "You are a self-respecting girl, but the prophet is a womanizer." Words spoken by the disappointed parents of a girl who had 'offered' herself to Muhammad (he accepted).
     

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