Discussion in 'Warfare / Military' started by ArmySoldier, Aug 14, 2018.
I like the Pole-lock babe on the far right.
When I was in the "crotch" I only found myself on six Navy taxi cabs, three LPH's (USS Valley Forge, USS Princeton (both Essex class carriers) and the USS Iwo Jima and three different LSD's. All of the LSD while participating in amphibious training exercises off the West Coast.
The USS Valley Forge and the USS Iwo Jima while TAD with BLT 1/26 in Vietnam.
So there is good news lurking from the ranks of Ft Benning (can't speak for other installations). A really good friend of mine, and a mentor to me, works in battalion at benning.
He's home now and we were chatting about basic/OSUT. I asked him if the DS's took it easy on the kids these days.
He said "Not in my battalion. I stand firm by assuming that every one of my soldiers will be Ranger Ready by graduation. We keep tradition alive".
Few people could manage to finish that course. Airborne when I was at Ft . Benning was about 3 weeks long I believe.
I personally haven't gone through Airborne, but I've passed AA. Airborne isn't hard. It's just a few weeks of PT and jumps. AA actually had some crazy bumps in the road.
I wish I had been sent to Airborne school but back then there was a need for AA given who we were attached with.
And yes, bring in the "AA" jokes
Docked at San Francisco is the Jeremiah O'Brien. Though a WW2 cargo ship it is one of the last to survive. A neat factoid is the movie the Titanic made by Cameron took the engine shots inside the engine room of this ship. I spent a few hours on the ship and learned it on my visit.
You start since I don't know any.
I wonder if at Ft. Benning they still call the infantry "legs"
When I was at OSUT, they usually just called us "ASVAB waivers"
When I was there for AB training, we were expected to show up in very top shape. My brief story is I passed every part of the PT test except I was one pull up short of passing that part. We had to pull up chest high. I was not prepared for that high a pull up.
I looked at a duty sign near the mess hall and saw guys dropping out from CA got sent to Europe.
I decided the "Gorilla pit" as they then called it was not for me. A full week of PT to enable the men passing it to pass the PT test again.
I am sure happy I stopped to read that was on that duty sign. The Army had some truly screwed up rules at that time. I tried to get into the OCS at the time but was turned down as not being in a duty station. They could have counted Ft. Benning as a duty station as I saw it. I got to Germany and told the CO I had tried to get into OCS when at Benning too. I had high scores so had passed that test at Ft. Ord. His excuse was based in Germany I would have to spend 6 months waiting for a top secret clearance. I said to hell with all of that. When I got home, i had a very high paying job to begin with. Anyway, appears my grandson has plans now to enter the Air Force and become an officer there. He plans to have the Air Force pay for his college education. His brother is almost finished in college and was earning during the Summer $9600 per month and when his assignment was concluded, he signed up with Face book to work full time so they handed him $32,500 up front and when he shows up at Facebook again he gets the rest of the payment that amounts in total to $65,000 and he also will get $40,000 in stock. I told his mom to tell him to check out taxes to be paid on the stock.
I can only speak for Army OCS, but it's top 10% order of merit. So essentially, if I wanted (hypothetically) aviation or intelligence after graduating OCS, I need to be in the top 10% of my class to even stand a chance. Infantry is up there too. Easier said than done, but graduation and commissioning was something I will never forget.
Having been an enlisted grunt for the better part of a decade, it was cool to be saluted.
If I were going through AF OCS, I would go intelligence if I could. Better jobs in the private sector in Northern Virginia (as we call it here, Intelligence Avenue)
At Ft. Benning, all of us had to take one test. If a person got a very high score, we could also take the OCS qualifying test. I planned to go to OCS so took both tests. I also got a high score on the Officers entry test. I took both Basic and AIT at Ft. Ord and also at Ft. Ord was in the leadership training course and passed that too. Few of the men got to take the officers pre test.
Getting into OCS now is EXTREMELY competitive. Just dropping a packet is enough to send a recruiter running away from you. You need excellent references, have to be a PT stud, and a great college GPA (along with leadership activities).
What is the highest rank you have attained? Are you still active? The CO I clerked for in Germany started as a company clerk and was in combat in Korea. He was a Captain first and then was promoted to Major and last he retired as a Lt. Col. And got a job upon retirement as a college teacher.
I will pass onto my grandson your recommendations. Seems with him, he has some vision problem. His goal was to fly helicopters. At the moment, he seems poised to make it a career. His older brother plans to work for Facebook full time. Both brothers have been around a number of eastern states. Never know if Nathan would work at the East coast but at least he has spent a number of weeks there.
Your grandson might be interested in Warrant Officer flight school (WOCS or whatever it's called now). It's easier to go aviation that way than to try your luck at OCS. Trust me.
Vision may be a big problem though. However, if he can have it corrected (many ways to do so), he may be fine.
I am still active. I'm actually active for the first time. I used to be in the national guard. I'm just a butter bar.
@Nightmare515 can probably answer any questions you or your grandson may have about aviation. He's our SME.
Ranger ready, from basic training, ha!
What's far off about that? If you have option 4 and option 40, you go to OSUT (infantry school, not just basic training), to a couple weeks of AB school, then to RASP...
That is called AIT..
Not in the infantry. It's called OSUT.
I wish my drill time was at benning. I was stuck in jackson. There is nothing more depressing than watching a 42A Drill Sergeant try to teach a bunch of privates how to execute battle drill 1A. Then, when you try to pull them aside and teach them the right way to do it, they get all defensive. Not all of them, but many. Being surrounded by a bunch of other 11B Drills would have been so much better.
Yea we never had a POG DS in our company. OSUT was not fun at all, but the DS were fun to talk to once we graduated (actually, two weeks before graduation was our "recovery" period. We just did some drill and ceremony but mainly just cleaned our bays and did PT).
We learned a lot from the DS's combat experiences.
We had an day long bus ride. Arrived at Ft. Lost in the woods at about midnight. Went through supply. That took about four hours to get our initial issue and TA-50. Then we were transported to our barracks, B-1-3. We were met by some very polite Drills that "requested" that we get off the bus. Three minutes later I was on the ground with a full duffel on my back doing push ups. That went on for about an hour. We got to bed at about five and got up an hour and forty five minutes later for the rest of our reception. We jumped in running with a boot in our ass. It went like that for three weeks. They slacked off a bit after those first three weeks but not much. We had one guy that was beaten by two drills while having a nervous breakdown after we came in from the range on night. The drills disappeared for about a week and came back a chevron lighter than when they left. The guy was moved to a hold over platoon and discharged. I think we only got two passes through the whole basic. One guy got drunk, hired a hooker, was to drunk to get it up and got VD to boot.
We got a 36 hour pass in OSUT after the red,white, and blue phases were complete (in between black and gold phases). The DS's made a point to tell us that they would be going from bar to bar looking for us to be drinking to bring us back to base (they weren't kidding).
Must be nice, we got one day pass in OSUT between the "basic training" phase and the "AIT" phase. Was that black and gold phase? I don't remember. We were restricted to post which at Knox means basically the PX and the bowling alley. And were told you couldn't stay in the barracks and sleep. So most people just went to the shoppette and bought cases of beer and went and hid in the woods somewhere lol.
Our OSUT sucked, we weren't allowed to do anything that the other classes could do. Plus we were in trouble on a daily basis and we were stuck in red phase until like week 16 until they gave us our gold flag so we could graduate with it.
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