Chemical Castration for Child Sex Offenders, yea or nay?

Discussion in 'Opinion POLLS' started by ChrisL, Jun 23, 2017.

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Chemical Castration?

  1. Yes (or even real castration)

    45.5%
  2. Yes but only by chemical means.

    15.9%
  3. No, that is cruel and unusual punishment.

    22.7%
  4. Other (please explain) Thx.

    15.9%
  1. ChrisL

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    I'm not retracting my viewpoint. It is no different than any other court ordered therapy. People with mental illness are already court ordered to take meds, court ordered commitment, etc.

    AND, I already told you that those things can be monitored! If there is a rise in the liver function tests, then they would STOP the medication.
     
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    You say you are not retracting your viewpoint, but I'm not seeing anything in your post now about your complete lack of concern over kidney and liver failure and them breaking bones.

    As I said before...
    It's just utterly stupid to just retract your viewpoint at this point. I'm not falling for it.
     
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    I'm not concerned about it. This will now be the THIRD time that I told that these can be monitored. What is it that you don't understand about this simple statement?
     
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    Indeed. Hence this becomes an eye for an eye thing.
    /"eye"-roll

    Just plain stupid to retract your opinion over and over, to than confirm it over and over.
     
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    It is against the rules to edit quotes. Perhaps you had quote the WHOLE post next time. Like I said, those complications can be monitored with liver and kidney function tests. Obviously you know nothing about healthcare. Well, guess what? I do.
     
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    This is not about monitoring.
    This is about your total lack of concern of mutilating prisoners.
    That is the basis of the eye for an eye punishment.

    Hence... chop of the thieving hand before it evolves into armed robbers who kill.
     
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    There is NO mutilation involved, weirdo.
     
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    Although I wouldn't object to mutilation either. The last thing I feel is "pity" for these psychopathic child predators.
     
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    If it was up to me, and one of them touched MY child, I would kill him with my bare hands, slowly and painfully. What do you think about THAT?
     
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    Pieces of human garbage that they are. The REAL monsters in life are the human ones.
     
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    Well. 3 things....
    It can just as well be a female babysitter. So it doesn't need to be a "him".
    Extrajudicial punishment and torture is a crime
    And it would be hard to strangle if 1 hand was chopped off due to theft.
     
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    And what would you do if you later discovered that your victim was innocent?
     
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    What a dumb comment. Lol. Look, obviously you have nothing to add here. Move along, ugly little troll.
     
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    This is not a question of guilt or innocence. It is a question of the proper way to keep kids safe after these sickos are released from jail.

    Besides that, most ARE actually guilty. There is no such thing as a perfect system where it is a guarantee that nobody innocent would EVER be locked up. So what? It is what it is, and its the best we can do for the time being.

    I do NOT buy the "I would rather ten guilty men go free than one innocent man be charged." That is such BS! In that case, nobody would get time for their crimes!
     
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    What would you do if you found out Donald Trump was "innocent" of the charges you throw at him every day with little to no evidence at all?
     
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    The only dumb thing is you making one single type of crime something where you get to mutilate a convict with your rather sick eye for an eye sharia like mentality. And you are trolling away from this.

    It's just like Mr Truth asked, what if you killed an innocent person? And instead of taking any responsibility.... You again are just childishly trolling away what consequences your extrajudicial punishment of premeditated murder on an innocent person is. Seriously, what is more horrific than slowly kill a person you wrongfully accused of a hideous crime? In your line of thought, you should be burned alive at the stake to be an example for all.


    And yeah. I do recall an example how a crippled guy in London got his skull kicked in by his neighbor on accusation of him being a pedophile, to than set him on fire. In the end, the crippled guy was totally innocent. Even cops were sent of to jail over that one. How much do you look like this mental case? In your line of thought, you should be drugged up severely so you won't be murdering anybody around.
     
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    ChrisL has a history of responding with hate whenever she is stumped in these discussions. Typical right wing troll - but that is no surprise in this forum.

    Sadly, THOUSANDS of innocents have been prosecuted, imprisoned (with many dying in prison) for crimes they never committed. The Innocents Project and similar campaigns have proven that assertion. Thus, while people like her celebrate when innocents suffer in prison or die, the families of these people suffer while taxpayers are often forced to pay MILLIONS in damages for the injustices endured.
     
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    No, I respond to you how you deserve to be responded to. Thousands? Really? Where is your evidence of these THOUSANDS of innocent people? Two thousand in 23 YEARS you mean? That is a very SMALL percentage.

    Like I said, this isn't a question of guilt or innocence. This is about protecting our children from scummy low life predators.

    Do you think THIS guy might be innocent?

    http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/17/us/cannibal-eat-children-case/index.html
     
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    We also must realize that there are probably child sex predators posting on THIS board with us.

    http://www.wfaa.com/news/two-child-sex-offenders-explain-how-they-picked-their-targets-1/434667495

    Grooming is the common practice among sex offenders of breaking down a child’s moral fiber, said Miller.

    “They first rape the child’s mind in order to rape their body,” she said.

    The predators told us that the first step is isolating the victim.

    “Creating opportunities to be alone with her, apart and separate from the group,” the former child supervisor said. "On the bus, sitting together all the time.”

    Then, he said, he worked to earn the victim’s trust.

    “You become the child’s confidante,” he said. “You become the one they look to as the one that is going to provide their answers and give them their guidance. You supersede the really necessary and powerful other relationships in their lives. In fact, you discount them. You find ways in the things that you say and do to discount those relationships.”

    Earning the child’s trust makes it easier to push the boundaries that ensure adequate, safe and healthy barriers exist between teachers and their students, he said.

    Often, predators use texting and Facebook to help groom victims, eroding those normal barriers.

    “So you allow sexual subject matter to be talked about,” the former teacher told News 8. “Perhaps you’re open to sexual questions … And of course then you start to push the boundary a little farther. ‘Is that something you’re interested in? What do you like in those situations,’ – inappropriate subject matter,” he said.

    “It is grooming, because you’re gaining their trust on a sexual nature, and that opens the door to commit a sexual offense,” he said.

    We asked the former child supervisor how he kept the parents from knowing or suspecting he was having sex with his young victim. His response was quick and pointed.

    “Lied. Continually,” he said. “We would sneak around and find ways to meet at the mall or meet at the movie theater… When we became sexual … that’s when everything went into protection mode, ‘We’ve got to hide this, keep this secret.’”

    The former child supervisor offers these tips to help protect your children – from people like he says he used to be, prior to undergoing therapy.

    “If a parent sees their child spending an inordinate amount of time with a significant adult that is outside the family, that is something to really spend some time looking at,” he said.

    “If your child starts talking about another significant adult in ways that you are going, ‘I didn’t realize you guys were that close,’” then there could be a problem, he said.

    “Any attempt to gather favor, connection, is a part of that grooming process,” he said. “That desire to have kids like you, have kids connect with you, where you can joke with them, where, though you are an authority figure, you are not seen as an authority figure.”

    So, what’s the top deterrent? Both men told us it’s simply an adult who cares enough to take the time to monitor their child’s electronic communication.

    “It shouldn’t be a bad thing for a parent to take a look at a phone and see what’s going on,” the former child supervisor said. “In fact, if they’re not doing that, they set themselves up for a lot of heartache.
     
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    A bit of advice to parents and people who care about the children, don't ever post pictures of your young children on a forum like this. It is "fodder" for the sex predators. They may ask you to post more pictures of your child for more "entertainment" for themselves.
     
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    ''Thousands?''


    • ''Since 1989, there have been tens of thousands of cases where prime suspects were identified and pursued—until DNA testing (prior to conviction) proved that they were wrongly accused.''

    https://www.innocenceproject.org/dna-exonerations-in-the-united-states/



    mind you this project is only one of many with local police/advocacy groups conducting their own tests and which have exonerated many more - we do not have an actual stat for that but it is far more than those "tens of thousands"







    ''I respond to you how you deserve to be responded to. ''


    Nah. Just with hate and emotionalism. So typical of the far right.





    ''Do you think THIS guy might be innocent?''


    That's up to the courts to decide.






    How these guys - guilty, right?


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    Wrong. Innocent as babes.

    Today the cops (the real low life predators) who made up the story are happily retired living on fat pensions paid for by taxpayers.
     
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    If true, they will likely be church going Republican Pharisees.
     
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    What hate and emotion? You are an internet nut just like the other troll. You certainly aren't worth any of my emotions or my hate. Lol.
     
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    I don't really care what you think. Lol. And regardless of how you feel about me, the point is that these criminals and predators need to be medicated so that they aren't getting aroused by toddlers. The toddlers need protection. These grown sickos do not.
     
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    Many, many, many MORE children are raped, tortured and murdered than "innocent" men being convicted of child sex crimes that they didn't commit.
     

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