Chicago 2017: Homicide, Gun Control, LEO Gone Fetal And The DOJ

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by QLB, Jan 15, 2017.

  1. Greataxe

    Greataxe Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2011
    Messages:
    9,400
    Likes Received:
    1,348
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
  2. Vegas giants

    Vegas giants Banned

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2016
    Messages:
    49,909
    Likes Received:
    5,343
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I await to see your evidence
     
  3. Greataxe

    Greataxe Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2011
    Messages:
    9,400
    Likes Received:
    1,348
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I was wrong. I meant Nationmaster, not City Data.

    However, I have more trust in the stats done by neighborhood scout
    https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/ut/salt-lake-city/crime

    Like all cities, there are bad areas with high numbers of Blacks & Hispanics doing crime up to 10 times out of proportion that raise the rates for everyone.

    The best way to understand crime is match the bad areas with their demographics.
     
  4. Vegas giants

    Vegas giants Banned

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2016
    Messages:
    49,909
    Likes Received:
    5,343
    Trophy Points:
    113
    You have your numbers I have mine
     
  5. DoctorWho

    DoctorWho Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2016
    Messages:
    15,501
    Likes Received:
    3,740
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Your numbers must be secret, you never share them.....
    lol
     
    Ddyad likes this.
  6. Small Town Guy

    Small Town Guy Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2013
    Messages:
    4,294
    Likes Received:
    354
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Yes
     
  7. Rucker61

    Rucker61 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2016
    Messages:
    9,774
    Likes Received:
    4,103
    Trophy Points:
    113
    What is it about Chicago that drives the people there to kill each other so much? Lots of other places have much easier access to guns and they don't kill at the same rate. Are they not capable of living a civilized life?

    If your child draws on the walls, and all you do is hide the crayons, you haven't taught them not to draw on walls but to find out where the crayons are hidden or to use a pen. Why can the people of Vermont be awash in guns but have nowhere near the same problems? If population density is the problem, fix that. If it's poverty or lack of adult supervision fix that. Hiding the crayons doesn't fix the cause and it keeps those who can draw inside the lines from using them, too.

    What is wrong with the people of Chicago?
     
  8. An Taibhse

    An Taibhse Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2016
    Messages:
    7,271
    Likes Received:
    4,849
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Imaginary numbr
    like the violence propagated by control over the liquor market during prohibition, the current violence is propagated by the control over the drug market.

    http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/0...-chicago-fueled-by-sinaloa-cartel-heroin.html
     
    DoctorWho likes this.
  9. QLB

    QLB Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 7, 2015
    Messages:
    11,696
    Likes Received:
    2,019
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Well 2/3rds of Chicago is minority with almost 80% of the homicides from the Black population and most of the rest from the Hispanic. That says loads.
     
  10. An Taibhse

    An Taibhse Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2016
    Messages:
    7,271
    Likes Received:
    4,849
    Trophy Points:
    113
    It follows the fight for the control of drug market and it's money and those needing to feed their addictions through crime. Same in any big or small population center that has groups struggling for market control and have the collateral drug related crime, including places like the EU, SA, and...
     
  11. Vegas giants

    Vegas giants Banned

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2016
    Messages:
    49,909
    Likes Received:
    5,343
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Well its 18th in the country in homicides....how do they get it so much better than those other cities?
     
  12. Vegas giants

    Vegas giants Banned

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2016
    Messages:
    49,909
    Likes Received:
    5,343
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Those dam republicans
     
  13. AGWisFAKEsillyBABYKILLERS

    AGWisFAKEsillyBABYKILLERS Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2017
    Messages:
    1,321
    Likes Received:
    877
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Stop and frisk..
    Bring enforcement under federal control..
    Raid suspected bangers houses for evidence to lock em up..

    Chicago is an embarrassment to my country.. Those in power there locally should be ashamed..
    How in the hell did we elect a guy from such failure..
     
    OrlandoChuck and Turtledude like this.
  14. Vegas giants

    Vegas giants Banned

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2016
    Messages:
    49,909
    Likes Received:
    5,343
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Tried that. Not working
     
  15. Turtledude

    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2015
    Messages:
    31,373
    Likes Received:
    20,830
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    sure works better than BM laws that target honest people and do not change the legal environment for criminals

    edit-my bad, working to you means harassing honest citizens, not controlling criminals. so yes, laws or actions that crack down on CRIMINALS are NOT WORKING in terms of what YOU want
     
    Last edited: Apr 17, 2017
  16. Texan

    Texan Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 7, 2014
    Messages:
    9,129
    Likes Received:
    4,704
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    RICO statutes. If a gang member commits a crime, bust them all as accomplices.
     
  17. DoctorWho

    DoctorWho Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2016
    Messages:
    15,501
    Likes Received:
    3,740
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Italics mine....

    Lots of related effort is already under
    Federal Control.
     
    Last edited: Apr 18, 2017
  18. vman12

    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2015
    Messages:
    66,736
    Likes Received:
    46,529
    Trophy Points:
    113
    We just need to go ahead and Tomahawk Chicago.
     
    OrlandoChuck and DoctorWho like this.
  19. QLB

    QLB Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 7, 2015
    Messages:
    11,696
    Likes Received:
    2,019
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Meanwhile in Chicago: Confirmed kill 183 for the year with the city approaching 1000 total shot for 2017. All of this is a Democratically controlled city, a sanctuary city and one with very strict gun control. Go figure.
     
  20. Vegas giants

    Vegas giants Banned

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2016
    Messages:
    49,909
    Likes Received:
    5,343
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I really think the best way to reduce this gun violence is with national gun control....don't you?
     
  21. Jestsayin

    Jestsayin Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Aug 1, 2016
    Messages:
    16,798
    Likes Received:
    17,571
    Trophy Points:
    113
  22. QLB

    QLB Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 7, 2015
    Messages:
    11,696
    Likes Received:
    2,019
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The only question for you is 110 or 220
     
    DoctorWho and vman12 like this.
  23. Vegas giants

    Vegas giants Banned

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2016
    Messages:
    49,909
    Likes Received:
    5,343
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Actually the best question is mandatory training or universal background checks
     
  24. QLB

    QLB Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 7, 2015
    Messages:
    11,696
    Likes Received:
    2,019
    Trophy Points:
    113
    That's not a question. But you can use salt water the next time.
     
  25. Vegas giants

    Vegas giants Banned

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2016
    Messages:
    49,909
    Likes Received:
    5,343
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Yeah I think gun control similar to most first world nations would help end this gun violence.....don't you?
     

Share This Page