CHICAGO - 56 shot, 10 fatally, this weekend 7/13/2020 so far

The difference is the police are in white neighborhoods to prevent and stop crime, they are in black neighborhoods to contain and keep there. Do you honestly think politicians would sit idly by if this type of carnage was happening in a white part of the city. Why is it you don't see folks standing on the corners selling drugs in white neighborhoods.

You set the system up to work that way, so please don't hand me that BS.

It's also your tax dollars and mine that pays for whites on wefare.

No you will whine and cry and claim it was because of AA and stopped you from being successful.

Give me specific Democrat policies that do just that.

History proves that is false as well.

.....and yet you have many whites who aren't generating a damn thing either. You don't complain about it because they are white and there are more of them than blacks and Latinos combined.

 

Maybe because white parts of the city COOPERATE with the police. They don't try to drive them out. Witnesses tel police what they saw so that criminals can be put away, and the criminals are not released because of a lack of evidence. Also stronger family values, and a higher rate of young men with strong father figures as opposed to black neighborhoods. Simple ****. You guys are complaining about crime, and at the same time trying to tie the cops hands behind their backs. You cant have it both ways.

 

Does it? Really? You continue to support the democratic party who manage said city. Why do you suppose democrats in Chicago are so unable to control the level of violence in their city? Seems like the president has repeatedly offered help and assistance to the mayor there. Why do you suppose she's both refused and continues to ignore that help........ Do you suppose that this violence is reflective of Democratic party's willingness to use this violence as a political tactic to undermine the fabric of this nation? I do.

 

chicago leaders and activists (and other cities with massive crime problems) will blame crime and violence on anybody except the criminals themselves, citing systemic racism, Jim crow, slavery, Columbus, you name it. Until the city leaders, city activists, and neighborhoods get together and admit that they have a culture problem and work together to stamp out this issue, it will continue indefinitely.

As long as they wanna pass the blame and play victim, there is no hope for improvement. I still fly into the city but only for weddings and funerals, otherwise I have no interest in going back there, its a bad place with too many bad people, I'm happy in my city, we generally have 1/3 to 1/2 of the regular crime vs the national average, and compared Chicago we're literally a utopia. Chicago has had more shootings in July than my city has had in the last decade. (and its only july 13, If I researched it, they might have beat us by July 4th.

 

Of course they do because they are treated with respect by the police, seldomly are they harrassed, beaten or murdered because they are white.

Do you know why many folks don't tell the police what they saw? Because the police are no where around when those folks come seeking to harm them for telling the police what they saw.

That would be comical if it wasn't so sad. I guess next you will tell us how many years you have been in a black neighborhood or grew up in one. You don't have a clue.

How is holding them accountable when they harrass, beat or murder black citizens tying their hands?

 

I think democrats think this is a winning formula. Create the basis for dependence. Step out of the way of violence that happens as a result of dependence. Use the violence to spread fear in folks who don't want the violence to come to their doorstep. Use that fear to ramp up taxes on the promise those taxes will "fix" the problem. Use the taxes to create more dependence. Rinse and recycle...

This is the model. This is what the sucking sound around the country is. Democrats feasting on the efforts of others spreading hate and fear to cover their tracks. This is the legacy Creepy Joe wants to continue to inflict on the nation.

 

Trying to figure out if you are trolling again, ignorant of what has gone on in that city for decades, or just bored.
Thankfully, intelligent people understand the problem in Chicago the political group that has been allowed to run it for decades.

 

There is a lot of accusatory verbiage going on back and forth but specifically, what are you doing to help the black cause?

 

Being a progressive, productive, American citizen.

 

Trump is a racist Republican with most of the govt and all the Democrats working 24/7 to make sure nothing good is allowed to happen while he serves. He can’t do anything and anything he does is racist and evil obviously. He did do what no Democrat was able and make drastic improvements with unemployment. But Obama had 8 years, media that was behind him 100% and NO ONE STOPPING HIM from doing anything positive for black people. And he accomplished zilch. Nothing besides Obamacare. He didn’t improve race relations. He stoked it. He didn’t make anyone safer. He ignored it. Obama blew the biggest shot we had to blow down all the stupidity and victim blaming and bring the REAL problems to the front. But all he did was take advice from Al Sharpton over and over again. And we’re no better off.

 

I doubt if many read that from your posts. I have seen little constructive posts and most are attacking "white" people for keeping "black" people down. I assume you are black so if you really believe you are being a productive American citizen, how about posting a few suggestions to other black viewers as to how they can avoid the perils of gangs killing each other on a daily basis.
Even one or two from time to time would prove you are walking the talk.
You can start here.
Maybe things like stressing the value of remaining a family unit.
Respect and understand the value of a good education where upon graduating, there are great opportunities for people of color.

 

Chicago has been like that for decades all because of democrats. Why didn't Obama fix it when he had 8 years? lol

 

I think you are mistaking Trump for democrats. Yes, you most certainly are.

 

If black lives mattered, the usual suspects would be falling over themselves in an effort to blame this on Trump.

 

I wonder how many leftist heads would explode if people started saying in response to hearing "all lives matter",no, white lives matter.

 

I dont feel that Obama stoked anything, perhaps he would like to take a few words back, but compared to DJT he has nothing to ask forgiveness for by comparison.

i would have liked to have him do some calling out, that coming from him might have made a real difference.

Perhaps he did, but I don't recall him doing so.

 

The best advice a black person can give another black person is " move away from the violence" as far away as possible. Start fresh, new neighborhood, new neighbors, new schools, new peers for your kids.

Waiting for the government to fix your city? it's foolish.

My parents didn't wait they moved me away when I was 13. Kicking and screaming teenager whon didnt want to leave. Now if they told me to move back I'd be kicking and screaming again, not gonna happen.

I was in my 30s before I finally sat my dad down and said " sir , thank you so much for dragging me away from that City, I owe you one"

 

I recall it.

 

Best advice I have seen given to people of any color,

1. Stop shooting each other

2. Take education seriously

3. Learn how to use birth control

4. Try evolving instead of blaming others for your failed life.

 

Thank you.

With all the speeches he did and how eloquent he was I would hope that he would have addressed the issue but perhaps too fanciful to have an impact. Make sense?

To me it's a grass roots issue. At this point the neighborhood has to step up to clean up itself in coordination with law enforcement, technology, cams, neighbors calling out neighbors, street by street.

Unfortunately that means many thousands incarcerated across the country, more than its fair share will be minorities. More arguments, lose lose situation.


More Community Support? Sure it sounds like a great idea but literally and how is a community center going to take a career criminal off the streets on the regular, even if successful 2 will replace him when hes gone.

Defunding police properly is good if done right but I'd rather see expansion not redirected funds.

Thinking with just feel good measures ignores the ongoing problem with a generational approach. That's great but the problem is now, and it's pretty ugly.

 

Absolute BS.

You take isolated incidents and try to make it the norm... and look at the norm and dismiss it.

How is your alternate reality living up?

 

How many lives do you suppose that has saved?

 

So you aren't a big fan of statistics I see.

 

It's funny listening to Trumpers whine about Pres Obama, Trump is in year 4 and he hasn't done nothing but bring racism and divisiveness into the light and no matter what he does the right turns a blind eye and tries to blame everyone else except for the man who is responsible for it.

 

Well I got to go against the grain with you on this one.

New York Chicago Baltimore Los Angeles Detroit and probably a hundred other towns or cities, rural too. Bad cops out there (and we fkn protected them!) The last 100 years there a friggin boatload of abuse by law enforcement. To ignore the past is ridiculous, there are some ugly stories there.

With that said the issue to me it isn't the abuse or the frequency or any racial profiling as much as the lack of accountability against bad cops for the last... well since fking ever....

And good cops looked the other way far too often. Cameras help, they aren't designed to look away.