Chicken & egg

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  1. Canell

    Canell Well-Known Member

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    So, what comes first, the chicken or the egg?

    Anyone knows the answer to that one? ;)
     
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    Life before the conception. This was before the flood. After the flood, there were 7 pairs of chickens, male and female.

    Same applies to pigs. Life before conception before the flood. After the flood, 2 pairs of pigs, male and female.

    Genesis 7:2

    "Take with you seven pairs of every kind of clean animal, a male and its mate, and one pair of every kind of unclean animal, a male and its mate", -NIV

    "Of every clean beast thou shalt take to thee by sevens, the male and his female: and of beasts that are not clean by two, the male and his female" -KJV

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    Why would 1 pair of unclean be more wrong than 2 pairs?


    Male/Female of the same = 1
     
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    Well, reptiles laid eggs well before birds, right?
     
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    There’s no definitive answer because it depends on how you interpret the question.

    If you mean eggs in general, obviously they came first but if you’re talking chicken egg, the question becomes whether an egg is defined by the animal which laid it or the animal inside. Biologically, it could be said that there was a point where a bird which wasn’t quite a chicken laid an egg which hatched a bird that was just about a chicken. The question would be does that make that egg a chicken egg or would we have to wait for that first actual chicken to lay an egg of its own?

    Of course, the definition of chicken is a question too. How we formally define chickens today would be somewhat different to how they would be defined in the ancient past. Early man may have given the same label to lots of birds which seemed pretty much the same to them or different labels to what we’d define as the same species.

    Does a chicken still chicken if there’s nobody around to call it a chicken? :D Maybe the chicken only really existed the first time someone defined it and the same for the chicken egg. That makes it an question of which was named first (which we’ll never know).
     
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    Nope, there is. 8)
    Please, try again. :cheerleader:
     
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    Duh. The egg of course.
     
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    How does the liquid egg yolk get inside the hard egg shell?
     
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    No there isn't. The answer to every question depends on how it is interpreted. I expanded on some of the options in my reply. If that doesn't cover what you believe is the one definitive answer, you'll need to explain it yourself.
     
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    I will make it simple, what came first, Eggs or Egg salad ?
    Therein lies the Answer to;
    Life, the Universe, and Everything !
     
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    Then who made the Egg ?
     
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    The chicken.
     
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    Neither or both. Without a rooster, there can be no more chickens. Without chickens, there can be no more eggs.

    Amoebas can reproduce by mitosis, but they must have discovered sex was more fun despite the extra work. Given another million years of evolution, they too might invent eggs.
     
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    Reptiles. The ancestors of all birds.
     
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    Yep, god, both a chicken and a yolk!
     
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    Eggs evolved with simple sea life around 600 million years ago even before we saw the first fish. Hard-shelled eggs evolved with the first reptiles. Birds evolved form dinosaurs much later and chickens later evolved. So the egg came before the chicken.
     
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    What came second, the chicken or the
    Egg?

    What came first? The vulture or the egg?

    Another one.

    What came first? The man or the bed mattress?
     
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    Mattress head, Larry of the three Stooges.
     
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    Sounds like a sick omelette.


    Also...
    Chicken strips, eggs, peas, rice, some oil fry it for a couple of minutes, then water, fill the pot, let it boil for however long your rice needs; you'd have something you could sell as an abomination against chicken kind and call it that if you want, but it's mixing egg fried rice and chicken fried rice basically.

    What? - I'm from the city, Chinese Food is as British as Curry.
     
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