Chief Justice Roberts temporarily blocks release of Trump's tax records to House Democrats

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  1. MJ Davies

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    Seems pretty corrupt to play favors to a political party and politician like that.
     
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    I would say we're past "seems" at this point. /smdh
     
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    So what is the legislative purpose for requiring Trumps tax return?
     
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    Let this play out. One way or the other, a precedent WILL be set.

    My opinion on the topic? I'd like the tradition of disclosing full financials to be transparent and codified.
     
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    Its a criminal investigation of an individual and the Supreme Court is not a criminal court.
     
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    Bahahahaha.

    Democrat fascism hits another road block.
     
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    Not only that but there are a gazillion policies, procedures and ethics he violated straight out the gate. Misappropriation of inaugural funds, Hatch Act, etc.. Anything completely amoral, anti-USA, anti-American, self serving and just beyond awful...this POS traitor violated.

    And, these faithless justices just announced to the whole world again they are afraid of a psychopath.
     
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    I do enjoy a good temper tantrum. Thanks.
     
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    Congress needs to enact legislation that identifies criminals (like those who evade taxes) who wish to become President of the United States. But Congress is a separate and equal branch of government. So the Judicial has no right to demand an explanation from Congress as to what laws they are considering.

    The IRS law, enacted by Congress, states that the Department of Treasury "shall furnish" tax returns to the Committee. NO law states that Congress "shall furnish" a legislative purpose to the Supreme Court. So we have a far right Supreme Court that is once again LEGISLATING.

    If a citizen suffers damages by presenting the tax returns, they can then have the Judicial branch find a remedy. But the Department of the Treasury SHALL furnish them.

    Right wingers are not so hot on the word "shall" when they don't see it in the 2nd Amendment.
     
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    Did anybody actually expect to ever see Trump's Tax Returns?
    With the S.Court (Heavily-Politicized) in the tank for the GOP for (at least) the next 30 Years...
     
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    You'd need an amendment. Congress can't arbitrarily add to the requirements to be President which are already enumerated in the Constitution.
     
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    Agreed but that is not what this specific case is about however, it's Congress ability to access under the wording of "shall". Let's see what SCOTUS thinks it means and whether or not "shall" means "shall".
     
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    The whole point of an injunction is to prevent the government (or another party) from doing something that can't be undone. Some actions don't have a remedy after they've been performed. Your position would be like telling a death row inmate he can sue after his execution and find a remedy then, but it wouldn't be proper for the courts to step in and pause the execution while his claim is adjudicated. It's absurd.

     
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    Given your standard here, Biden could never have become president. You okie dokie with that?
     
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    Hmm.. why did you expect that you would get to see his tax returns? Literally, the IRS says that unless Trump releases them to you, it's a felony for you to have them in your possession. And now you're complaining that the SCOTUS would follow the law here?
     
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    Huh? Two points:

    1) Congress is not a criminal court. If there are laws that need enforcing, that's an executive branch function, not a legislative one. And you're deluded if you don't think the IRS has combed through his tax returns dozens of times since Biden took over looking for any possible crime they can get him on.

    2) The Supreme Court routinely deals with matters of criminal law. Where do you think criminals appeal their cases to?
     
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    And congress IS a criminal court?
     
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    When you got liberals crying on this forum you know something lawful and civil is taking place.
     
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    Why do think they are constantly grilling people and corporations in Congressional hearings? Heck, they grilled Hillary for 4 years in 6 different investigations.
     
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    So... the left doesn't want to interfere with news that might influence an election, yet, if any possible news might help their election by, influencing, that is perfectly okay.. Honestly, why not wait until after the midterms? If you get the tax forms, what's your hurry?

    FBI brass warned agents off Hunter Biden laptop due to 2020 election: whistleblowers

    Remember when any whistleblowers needed to go through the DOJ... or face consequences?' Weaponizing the DOJ is okay with the Neoprogs....

    AG Garland bans DOJ employees from talking to Congress amid flood of whistleblower complaints
     
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    Um, they can refer charges to the DOJ... but congress has not powers to charge anyone.
     
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    The legislation branch of the government is not in the criminal investigation business. That would be part of the Executive branch business.
     
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    The same reason the Ways and Means Committee regularly reviews tax returns: to examine the need for changes to the law. Just to give you an example of one that we already know is public, there's Trump's questionable $73 million dollar refund and whether the law that allowed it (assuming it was correctly followed, and that's an open question right now) should be tightened, changed, etc. Given Trump's, shall we say, "creative" accounting, his tax returns would likely be a treasure trove of such information. Keep in mind, any changes to the law couldn't be used retroactively if everything Trump did was legal at the time.
     
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