Child Separation "Issue" Is Democrat Scam

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  1. Kode

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    Ewe wood have two take eech kase, won at a thyme and anal-ize them.
     
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    True asylum seekers and refugees only have to appear at legal ports of entry with documents to enter the U.S. legally.

    Asylum in the United States
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asylum_in_the_United_States
    ... from inside the U.S. or apply for refugee ... asylum seekers accepted into the U.S. was ... asylum in the United States are accepted as refugees … The United States recognizes the right of asylum for individuals as specified by international and federal law. A specified number of legally defined refugees who either apply for asylum from inside the U.S. or apply for refugee status from outside the U.S., are admitted annually.
    Asylum has three basic requirements. First, an asylum applicant must establish that he or she fears persecution in their home country.[3] Second, the applicant must prove that he or she would be persecuted on account of one of five protected grounds: race, religion, nationality, political opinion, or particular social group. Third, an applicant must establish that the government is either involved in the persecution, or unable to control the conduct of private actors.
     
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    So what you are saying is Obama's Fast And Fury was to get guns into Mexico so Obama assassination teams could gun down migrant children trying to enter the USA, right?
     
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    Trump's policy of having his bureaucrats abduct children from their parents was deemed loathsome by most Americans.



    His crapping on family values wins the applause of a particularly unAmerican few.
     
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    Conjuring up fantasies in days of yore fails as a diversion from the moral crisis Trump has contrived
     
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    That seems to be the only way to try and convince these people not to come here. Obama went to protecting our border to all but inviting them in in his last two or so years in office. When things like that happen, the word gets back home. A few years ago, around 60,000 kids came across the border alone. Why would parents do that? Most all of them are still here with friends and family. They are now trying to get the parents in with chained migration which Trump is trying to stop and the Democrats are all for it. As a matter of fact, the Democrats want chained migration for the whole 12 million illegals living here. Then later here comes thousands of mothers with their kids. Obama loaded them up in buses and dropped them off in cities around the country. You have Liberals on the other side of the border telling illegals what to say to get a chance to stay and not be deported. The Democrats are a big reason we have so much trouble with illegal immigration and they don't want to do anything to fix it.
     
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    Lets get your facts strait sir. That was Clinton's policies and it was carried on by Obama and it didn't seem to bother you or any of the other Liberals complaining now about it.
     
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    Pretending Trump's policy is no different from what was followed by prior administrations is a lie that has fizzled.

    So many Republicans, first ladies, and conservative religious leaders, among the vast majority of decent Americans, condemning Trump's repugnant, wholesale child abductions did not hide from the reality of bygone days. It differed.

    - although, it's hilarious to see desperate Trump's worshippers braying "He's no different from Obama!"
     
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    It's kidnapping plain and simple.
     
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    "Or for that matter, what does it have to do with child separation which is the topic of this thread?"

    Good point and I agree! Only...you brought the issue up. My recommendation? Start a thread in the conspiracy section if you want to discuss Russian collusion.
     
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    The description of the episode didn't mention anything about roving bands of kidnapping ICE agents operating south of the border. But from the crowd that doxxes ICE agents and harasses their kids, it's not surprising you would think this,
     
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    No lie, the only thing different is Trump is treating the kids better than Obama did and there are so many more of them, with Liberals on the other side of the border telling these parents what to say to get a chance to stay here. The more that say it, they have to be given a hearing and the kids have to be taken away. Tell those Liberals to get back across the border and keep their mouth shut and most of those people will just go back without a hearing of having to give up their child.
     
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    Meanwhile the false emotions of the Progressive Left and the propaganda and lies from their 5th Columnist media continue Ad Nauseum. The following excerpt best describes the truth

    "Consider. Two million Americans are in jails and prisons, all torn from their families and children. How many TV hours have been devoted to showing what those kids are going through?
    Thirty percent of all American children grow up with only one parent.
    How many TV specials have been devoted to kids separated for months, sometimes years, sometimes forever, from fathers and mothers serving in the military and doing tours of duty overseas in our endless wars?
    Because of U.S. support for the UAE-Saudi war against the Houthi rebels in Yemen, hundreds of thousands of children face the threat of famine. Those Yemeni kids are not being served burgers in day care centers.
    How many Western TV cameras are recording their suffering?
    When it comes to the rhetoric of hate, the cursing of politicians, the shouting down of speakers, the right is not innocent, but the left is infinitely more guilty. It was to the Donald Trump rallies, not the Bernie Sanders rallies, that the provocateurs came to start the fights.
    Why? Because if you have been told and believe your opponents are fascists, then their gatherings are deserving not of respect but of disruption.
    And, as was true in the 1960s, if you manifest your contempt, you will receive the indulgence of a media that will celebrate your superior morality".

    Source:
    https://townhall.com/columnists/patbuchanan/
     
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    If only you knew what you don't but think you do.

    Obama STRENGTHENED the border every year he was in office. FACT.

    You have to ask why a parent would send their child alone into America? You can't figure that out? I guess you aren't a parent.

    And yes most unaccompanied children are still in the US. What would you have done with them?

    "Chain migration" is not a dirty word nor a diabolical destructive program. It helped build the nation you are so proud of, or were when you were a kid before all them liberuls made it the most picked on, abused, manipulated piggy bank in the world.

    Republicans like you are just as culpable for the disgusting mess America apparently has become in your mind. I have noticed that when ti comes to trump and trumpettes, its ALWAYS everyone else's fault but theirs.

    I wistfully recall the days when republicans used to be the party that championed taking personal responsibility. Now it seems its more concerned with taking unearned credit and allocating blame.
     
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    • Nov. 13, 2014

    WASHINGTON — President Obama will ignore angry protests from Republicans and announce as soon as next week a broad overhaul of the nation’s immigration enforcement system that will protect up to five million unauthorized immigrants from the threat of deportation and provide many of them with work permits, according to administration officials who have direct knowledge of the plan.


    1. Obama Plan May Allow Millions of Immigrants to Stay
      https://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/14/us/obama-immigration.html
      Nov 14, 2014 · That part of Mr. Obama’s plan alone could affect as many as 3.3 million people who have been living in the United States illegally for at least five years, according to an analysis by the Migration Policy Institute, …

    2. Obama will let Central American kids apply for refugee ...
      https://www.cbsnews.com/news/obama-will-let-central-american-kids...
      The Obama administration will begin allowing children from Central American countries apply for refugee status in the United States, according to the New York Times.

    3. Obama to expedite U.S. entry for thousands of Haitians ...
      www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/americas/haiti/article...
      The expedited program announcement comes not only three months before the fifth anniversary of the disaster, but reportedly ahead of plans by President Barack Obama to legalize by executive action, many of the 11 million undocumented immigrants living in …

      He told ICE not to arrest or deport any immigrant already in the interior of the country.
     
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    As you know I am sure, for ever one caught at the border, 3-4-5 get away and if you don't try and deport them,it only keeps adding up to the millions.
     
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    Trump told his gullible, fanatic fans in South Carolina yesterday, "They came to me three days ago and they said, ‘Sir, we’d like you to sign this order.’ What is the order? ‘We need 5000 judges on the border.’ Here they want 5000. I said, ‘Where are you going to find 5000 people to be judges? How many do we have now?’ ‘I don’t know the number.’ They don’t even know the number even though they’re in charge. Nobody knows the number. We have thousands of judges already…I said, ‘I don’t want judges. I want ICE and Border Patrol agents.'" In blissful ignorance, his fans cheered wildly.

    It's all a lie. Esquire Magazine tells us, "There is no “they.” This meeting never happened. Nobody ever told him that we needed 5,000 judges. As it happens, there have not been 5,000 judges in the entire history of the federal court system. There are only a little less than 900 judges working in the federal system now, so we do not have “thousands of judges already.” And the phantom “they” are wrong about how many judges we have handling these cases now. Congress has authorized 484 of these judges, and less than 400 are presently working. This whole passage is one bald-faced non-fact after another."

    What a clown. This is our President.
     
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    "Documents"? What kind of "documents"?
     
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    No, that's gross spin and BS.
     
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    WATCH. THE. SHOW.
     
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    Actually it's Big Government kidnapping for those who support State intrusion. That distinguishes it from the small scale, entrepreneurial variety.
     
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    Yes it's a blatant lie contrived to divert from Trump's disastrous policy the attention of those Republican politicians, conservative religious leaders, first ladies, and the preponderance of Americans who uphold family values champion American decency. If you need to pretend that they all gave prior administrations a free pass, you lose. Your, "Everybody is as depraved as Trump!" gambit has fizzled.
     
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    1. You've heard of the dreamers haven't you?
    2. Yes unaccompanied kids can apply for refugee status. What would you have done with them?
    3. Yes, the haitians were granted "protected status" which ends in july 19. Even trump didn't just rescind the order. Wonder why?
     
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    If your point is that President Obama should be put on trial for crimes against humanity in his kidnapping well over 100,000 migrant children from their parents to turn them over for slave labor and sex slaves we are in full agreement.
     
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    And just what does your long diatribe have to do with my statements with the here & now?
     

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