China's economy grows 6.5% in Q4 as country rebounds from coronavirus

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  1. maxLiberal

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    just think if you had to sit for 11hrs in front of a vengeful Congress like Hillary aced, think you could match her? lol
     
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    Wrong. Masks and social distancing do not stop viruses. China simply lied and continues to lie about their numbers. The SOA is lying about their numbers too, but in the opposite direction...

    Good old communism... gotta love it, eh?? THAT'S what YOU want to happen HERE?? Seriously?? No, communism is downright Satanic. It is evil... it is tyrannical... Why would you want to be ruled over as a slave and be externally oppressed rather than be free and internally rule over yourself?

    Those are all unconstitutional actions. Of course, Demonkkkrats do not abide by the Constitution anymore. They have now made themselves into "elite ruling class" oligarchs, and people like YOU and I are simply the proles, the slaves, the oppressed... Remember, this is what YOU asked for, so don't complain about it (or blame me) when **** hits the fan...

    ... because masks do not stop viruses... There is absolutely ZERO reason for me to wear one beyond displaying my submission to the Demonkkkrat oligarchy, and the f****** am I going to do that... My God is the Christian God, not Satanically influenced Demonkkkrat oligarchs...

    What pandemic? There's lots of ignorance though, that's for sure.
     
  3. HTownMarine

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    Be honest, how loud would you have screamed FASCISM!! If Trump had welded you shut inside your apartment building?

    Pretty ****ing loud, right?

    You want the government to come weld you inside your own home? Then move to China and take your stupid ass mentality with you.
     
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    Nope, I've been correct. He, you, and many others have been dead wrong (just repeating the mantras of the Ministers of Societal Manipulation) (iow, the mainstream media)
     
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    When did I say that wearing a mask was bad? I think it's a fairly good deterrent provided that it's the right kind of mask and it is worn properly. My response was simply to say that we could never achieve the supposed success that China has reportedly had, simply by wearing a mask as you stated on page 3.
     
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    Our economy is in tatters because of democrats inability to control the virus in thier cities
     
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    Thanks for clarifying. My apologies if I misinterpreted that.
     
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    I agree. And, it's still the case that ALL governors and state legislatures have had to fight against the headwind that WAS (!!!) the Trump message. That made rational application of science based medicine difficult for political reasons. Governors can't sell a solution to the people so easily when the federal government is proclaiming the entire solution to be crap. So, what ends up being required is a compromise.
     
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    COVID was first reported to WHO on December 31, 2019.

    WHO published their first serious warning on January 5, 2020.

    On January 12, China provided to the world the genetic material of COVID-19 that they had been able to isolate in their Wuhan lab.

    The first case of COVID in America was on January 20.

    There was NEVER a travel ban on travel from China. There were warnings and some restrictions made on Jan 31. But, after that Americans could always travel there and back. By the time that was enacted there had been 300,000 travelers from China since the COVID outbreak. And, there were at least 75 plane loads of people coming from China to US destinations (San Francisco, Los Angeles and New York) per day AFTER the restrictions.

    There was no contact tracing or other proactive prevention going on at that time, including cases that CDC identified as they began showing up in America.
     
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    You really aren't even slightly listening to science based medicine on this topic.

    You haven't refuted anything AT ALL.

    The point of masks is to reduce transmission through water droplets.
     
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    That's what I have said!

    I have pointed out how China managed there success, which includes techniques that would not have been acceptable in ANY western first world government.

    However, that is NOT AN EXCUSE for millions of Americans to ignore what science based medicine has stated concerning reducing the spread of COVID in America.

    Our president decided to make mask wearing a PARTISAN POLITICAL issue. And, that decision alone killed large numbers of Americans.
     
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    Meanwhile, the Democrat platform on covid response?

    Shut down businesses.
    Lay off workers.
    Foment racial tension.
    Withhold relief funds

    Man, if only the Democrats were in power doing the exact same thing that happened under Trump, our economy wouldn't be a topic of discussion.
     
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    Are you suggesting Trump should have locked people in their homes, but didn't? Damn that fascist.

    https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/1703503427818

    https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/coronavirus-residents-welded-inside-their-own-home/

    I, for one, fully trust a government willing to use the standard method of welding my home shut for my own safety. They certainly wouldn't use the same method to prevent the spread of information that might make their heroic efforts look ineffective.
     
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    That is all true. However, many Democrats did not help the situation either such as Pelosi telling everyone to go to Chinatown because it was safe. Biden calling Trump a xenophobe for trying to restrict travel from China.didn't serve the public either or do you think that wasn't partisan?
     
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    Well of course Pelosi thought it was safe. She was lied to by Trump who said the virus was not a big deal. He lied to all of us while telling Woodward how deadly serious it was.

    Your claim about Biden calling Trump a xenophobe because of partial travel restrictions to China is a lie. I hate to break it to you, but you got duped by fake news.
     
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    I thought Pelosi follows science? No? She followed Trump?
     
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    Most Republican leaning economists believe in "free trade" - i.e. are against tariffs. Tariffs are basically taxes on the consumers of the products imported. A trade policy that minimizes tariffs tends to support free trade. The idea behind it is that tariffs distort a free economy, because its a government intervention into the cost of products, which should be set by those who sell the best product, at the lowest price. The return of tariffs might be viewed as a return to mercantilism, wherein the economy was geared to benefit "the state," rather than "the people" who purchase the products.
    Yes...tariffs might - in the short term - bring back some jobs, but the free traders today are essentially globalists and believe the dynamics of capitalism will eventually prevail and that we should focus on developing new products of the best quality at the lowest prices.
     
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    Absolutely NOT.

    It IS interesting to see what China managed with their technique, regardless of whether any of it would be acceptable here.

    In the US, our federal government did essentially ZERO.

    And we are paying for that.
     
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    That is a good point. You would expect the President would follow science but he wasn't. Why? This is a very importamt question. Thanks.
     
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    I think you missed the point. Your data regarding "what china managed" was produced and distributed by the same leadership that welded people into their own homes.

    Is quite a specious argument to say, "well we know they did horrible things, but at least they say they got good results."

    China has repeatedly lied and hidden information about the virus to the detriment of global health. Pointing to them as a shining star of success is silly.
     
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    Poor Pelosi. Who will she follow now?
     
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    I'd point out that "follow" means more than one point in time.

    Are you going to try to support the idea that Pelosi FOLLOWED Trump?

    If so, I'd like to see your argument!!!
     

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