Christian Zionists Are Bogus.

There is no greater threat to the Christian culture of the United States, than that of the so called 'Christian Zionist'.

The Christian Zionist is, imo, more harmful to Christianity, than Islam can ever be, for it is subversive, and perverts Christianity from within.

Not all Jews are Zionists of course, and many robustly oppose Zionism for the evil construct that it is today - those Jews are to be respected.

However, rabidly Zionist Jews care as little about the Christian, as any other Gentile. They see us as people to be used and exploited accordingly.

It should be no surprise to you that Zionists have infiltrated Christianity, in the US. A better question would be - why would they not?

After all, they figured out some time ago that to control banks and the media, is to control the people, and the same can be said about religion, if you can gradually infiltrate the dominant religion, you can exploit these people into behaving in a manner that may not be consistant with Christianity, at least as I understand it.

For example, Zionist Jews are often v offensive about figures that are sacred within the Christian reilgion, Jesus and the Madonna.

How can any Christian reconcile themselves with that?

Whatever differences you may feel, as a Christian, that you may have with a Muslim, do not forget, that in the Koran, Jesus is not only mentioned, but fully revered and accepted as a true prophet.

For all the one sides images that are beamed into your lounge, that may show Muslims angry at the US or the UK, politically, hey, I don't see Muslim actors in Holywood, and other media, desecrating Jesus.

My mother is from the island of Malta, which is around 98% RC.

I am not religous, but am interested in religion.

The Christianity that I experienced, both in Malta,and here in the UK, is like a whole different creature from the absurdly named Christian Zionism.

I may not personally believe the former, but it's core message was good, but read the words of a Christian Zionist, and you soon see that what they do is make money their god, and they will do anything for their god (money).

Here is a vid to comment on as well, and as always, play the ball not the man..

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNMFZZOOZLg&feature=related"]The Insanity of Christian Zionism! - YouTube[/ame]

 

Wow.. that's some TV show.....

 

I have never seen anything quite like that.............

 

No matter the context of the show, what it does illustrate is that the Jewish media in Israel, where that show was broadcast, treats the man most important to Christians, that being Jesus, with utter disdain.

 

Yeah.. pretty gross.. I had no idea they hated Jesus that much.

 

That's rather disturbing...and we support them? =/

 

You have been progressively tricked, esp since around the late 60's, by the Zionist movement.

Think of it like a cancer, it starts small, and if you ignore it, pretty soon it aggressively takes over all of you.

Only Zionists use your religion, sorry, I presume that to be Christianity, almost as a conveniant 'host', rather like they are the parasite, and your religion, your US political system, is the host.

As you will know, the parasite never truly benefits the host, it takes from the host, it weakens the host.

You can see that right now, in your country, in your own religion.

Zionists have perverted the Christianity that I knew, so that the face of 'Christianity', esp in the US, where Zionists have most infiltrated it, the face of Christianity is not a fraternal or benevolent one, nor one built on charitable deeds and fairness, but one build on a lust for money, and human might being absolute.

Oh, and they think nothing of human life either, so long as it's not their own that is being lost, since they are really cowards.

Does that seem like Christianity to you?

Because it surely is not the one that I was used to, growing up.

If you are an American, and a true Christian, then I ask you not to be fooled into being at war with your Muslim brothers, you are, according to your own Lord, both his creations. Zionism is almost a metaphor for evil, it's lust, it's greed, it's tyranny, it's cheap outlook on life, it's attempts to create war, it's attempts to set good Christians against good Muslims.

 

Well, I suppose that pretty much ordering the Romans to crucify him, first time over, may act as a clue as to how they thought of the most important figure in Christian teaching, historically speaking!!!

My guess would be that if Jesus were to return today, and denounced those that make money their god, and those in Israel who have illegally taken the land of their neighbours, that Mossad or some such would likely have him liquidated, all over again.

 

Wasn't born til the late 80s.

Actually I am currently non-religious, or agnostic I suppose.

I have a particularly low opinion of Christianity but also bordering indifferent at this point in my life.

The Christianity I grew up with was abusive and violent. But these Zionists just sound sly and devious.

You are definitely addressing the wrong person here. lol...

I just find it ironic that we are a majorly Christian nation and yet we're supporting a group of people who clearly detests Christians.

 

Lord have mercy!

I fully agree that radical Zionists of the Eretz Israel-type have no regard for Christians - just as radical Christians of the Hagee-type have no regard for Jews by the way.

But are you seriously presenting us this vile anti-semitic video made by David Duke, a former leader of the Ku Klux Klan, as a back-up for this claim?

Come on, man, think! Netanyahu has a field day whenever Duke opens his mouth. It's his sort that makes it so difficult to criticise the policies of the Israeli government without being called an anti-semite. I would not want to be associated with that racist scum for the life of me!

 

Well that's interesting news. Thanks for sharing. Didn't know he was a former leader of the KKK...

 

It is much more than 'ironic'.

It is one of the greatest tragedies of modern times, and potentially a mechanism to a Third World War.

Make no mistake, there are influential and rich Zionists, many but not all are American born, and they are pressuring your Gov's and both your parties, to shed American and non Jewish blood, in a conflict with Iran....that will serve only the greedy and psychopathic interests of the Zionist.

I am not religous either, as I explained, but I do know that in the Christian religion, 'Satan' is billed as a fantastic deceiver, that is what he does best, he deceives, and he manipulates. There is no man more deceptive than the Zionist man. I believe, although someone better placed may correct me, that Satan is also charged with being an imitator, which is really a form of deception. This is what the Zionists do, they have imitated and infiltrated for so long in the US now, that you could almost NOT have a career in politics, or last long in main stream journalism, if you were to challenge Zionist actions.

Remember that parasite controls host analogy I gave before?

In nature, it is like this...


[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMG-LWyNcAs"]Body Invaders - YouTube[/ame]

 

No offence, but AFAIK, his association with the KKK was 35 yrs ago.

As I said in another thread, just because of a what may have been ill advised, that length of time ago, should not mean that every single interview or thing that he says be dismissed with the 'He was in the KKK'..

There have been plenty of modern day Israeli 'politicians' who belonged to Jewish terrorist groups, groups far more dangerous and perhaps more racist than the KKK.

I believe in taking each thing a man may be talking about, on merit.

Irrespective, my point still v much still stands.

 

Does that mean you now dismiss what he says, or what I say, or what Norman Finkelstein, who is btw, a political scientist, American born, Jewish, lost parents in Nazi holocaust, yet is one of Israel's and Zionism's most fierce critics.



[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eB_CKL5h2_8"]'Israel is a Lunatic State' - Finkelstein on Gaza Flotilla Attack - YouTube[/ame]

 

I'm not sure yet. I am waiting to see more people debate this before I make a serious opinion. I would debate but I don't know very much about the topic or the people involved.

 

With respect to people here, many are laymen.

By all means, enjoy the chat, but please, do take time to listen to what Finkelstein has to say about Zionism, and keep in mind that he is a Jew, and he lost his parents to the Nazi holocaust.

I would say that this makes him pretty well placed to speak on such matters, and if you are interested in how the Zionists exploit and make gain from the Nazi holocaust, Mr Finkelstein explains it beatifully, and better than I could ever hope to.

Can you think of anything more low that literally making an industry out of the suffering of people who were not you? For that is how low Zionists go, anything that furthers their aims of power and money.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynWjYHP91gA"]If Americans Knew What Israel Is Doing! VIDEO WAS CENSORED! - YouTube[/ame]

 

In the first part of the narrative here, you will see that the now leader of Israel actually boasts about how beneficial those that died in 9/11 would be to ISRAEL.

Again, as with the cynical use of the holocaust(tm), can you go any lower than to use that as a benefit?


The Israeli newspaper Ma'ariv on Wednesday reported that Likud leader Benjamin Netanyahu told an audience at Bar Ilan university that the September 11, 2001 terror attacks had been beneficial for Israel.

"We are benefiting from one thing, and that is the attack on the Twin Towers and Pentagon, and the American struggle in Iraq," Ma'ariv quoted the former prime minister as saying. He reportedly added that these events "swung American public opinion in our favor."


And, of course, no Zionist slur would be complete without a casual ref to 'Nazi's'.....



Speaking Wednesday at a news conference on the Iran threat, Netanyahu compared Ahmadinejad to Adolf Hitler and likened Tehran's nuclear program to the threat the Nazis posed to Europe in the late 1930s.

Netanyahu said Iran differed from the Nazis in one vital respect, explaining that "where that [Nazi] regime embarked on a global conflict before it developed nuclear weapons," he said. "This regime [Iran] is developing nuclear weapons before it embarks on a global conflict."



In reality, if there is an idealogy that comes close to Nazism, it would be that of Zionism, with it's same racial superiority built in.


http://www.haaretz.com/news/report-netanyahu-says-9-11-terror-attacks-good-for-israel-1.244044

 

My understanding of Zionism is that it is basically two things: 1)Jewish World Supremicism, and 2)Anti-Christianity.

Zionists already control most all western Gov'ts, MainStream Media, Central Banks, Intelligence/Counter-Intelligence and State Depts, and Higher Education.

Certain Jews were able to convince powerful English Christians in the late 1800s that returning Jews to Palestine would be "returning Israel" to the "Promised Land". The Jews themselves are not the same people nor the descendants of ancient Israel, although many of them are falsely led to believe so. Christian Zionists are truly deceived.

 

Beautifully put.

Zionism is as much about some warped ideals about genetic purity, as German Nazism was.

For example, I believe that in Israel it is illegal for a Jew to marry a gentile.

Presumably because the off spring would be seen as something 'lesser' than Jewish? Either way, Israel is good at pretending to be a liberal state, yet what do we have here, a law that forbids that you marry a Gentile?

Not to mention that rather expensive ad campaign, Zionist backed, that was aimed at Jews not in Israel. Again, it was imploring them (for it could not order them), not to marry a gentile.

In any other walk of life, this would be a real example of racism, and the promotion of a racial elite. Yet, the Zionist knew all along that controlling the media, essentially meant control of the people of that nation. One need only spend a short time to find out the extent to which the US media is controlled by Zionist Jews, I think of the main broadcasters in the US, only Rupert Murdoch is not Jewish, although he is a rabid supporter of Zionism.

Therefore, because they print the papers, and beam out the tv, they airbrush the lies, their racism, and their usurping of the nation that is the US, and many in Europe, instead, distracting us with something else to be angry over.

I leave you with the words of a man, who happens to be Jewish, whose words on Israel, and their actions, should make any right thiking human being sit up and see EVIL for what it is, be they a Christian, or otherwise.

His name?

Dr Hajo Meyer.

Here...

Dr Hajo Meyer, 86, who survived 10 months in the Nazi death camp, spoke out as his 10-day tour of the UK and Ireland - taking in three Scottish venues - got under way. His comments sparked a furious reaction from hardline Jewish lobby groups, with Dr Meyer branded an "anti-Semite" and accused of abusing his position as a Holocaust survivor.

Dr Meyer also attended hearings at Edinburgh Sheriff Court on Thursday, where five pro-Palestine campaigners are accused of racially aggravated conduct after disrupting a concert by the Jerusalem Quartet at the city's Queen's Hall.

Speaking as his tour got under way, Dr Meyer said there were parallels between the treatment of Jews by Germans in the Second World War and the current treatment of Palestinians by Israelis.

He said: "The Israelis tried to dehumanise the Palestinians, just like the Nazis tried to dehumanise me. Nobody should dehumanise any other and those who try to dehumanise another are not human.

"It may be that Israel is not the most cruel country in the world ... but one thing I know for sure is that Israel is the world champion in pretending to be civilised and cultured."

Dr Meyer was born in 1924 in Bielefeld, Germany. He was not allowed to attend school there after November 1938. He then fled to the Netherlands, alone. In 1944, after a year in the underground, he was caught by the Gestapo and survived 10 months at Auschwitz concentration camp in Poland.

He now lives in the Netherlands, and is the author of three books on Judaism, the Holocaust and Zionism.

Dr Meyer also insisted the definition of "anti-Semitic" had now changed, saying: "Formerly an anti-Semite was somebody who hated Jews because they were Jews and had a Jewish soul. But nowadays an anti-Semite is somebody who is hated by Jews."

http://www.redicecreations.com/article.php?id=9707





Now, do you see the second part I made bold.

That is how low Jewish Zionists are.

How dare they call THIS man an 'anti semite'.

 

Jack thanks for the 411 on how nasty those Jews are.

This is a problem we must all think about. The Jewish Problem.

Do you have a Final Solution?

 

Although I'm not Jack,
No final Solution comes to mind.
A good start would be for those commonly called Gentiles to learn certain things:
1) The average intelligence (IQ)of Jews is approximately 115. That's far above the average White IQ of 100.
2) The history and origin of the Khazars, their choice of Judaism as a religion, and their descendants of today.
3) The world view of the Jewish Babylonian Talmud in regards to treatment of non-Jews, and particularly towards Christians. Their seeming genetic trait of a tendency to desire control over others.
4) The origin of Judaism in Babylonia as a perversion of Mosaicism, and the control of Judaism in Roman Judea as achieved by the Edomites under Antipater and his son, Herod the Great.
5) Acknowledgment that there have been many great and influential Jews--many of whom (like Benjamin Freedman) have rejected Jewish supremacy. Benjamin Freedman's 1961 Speech:
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijEXO9QTKS4"]Benjamin Freedman's 1961 speech - Part 1 of 5 - YouTube[/ame]

 

I'm glad I'm not Jewish when I read one of these threads.

However, I may end up having to hide a few in my attic.

 

Some of us wish there was a place we could escape their power.
There isn't, this side of the grave.
Your anticipations are for the wrong folks.

 

I understand this kind of talk is tolerated on this forum, but I warn you there are consequences.

 

and what are the consequences for failing to speak the truth?
Are you a Mossad-hired "talk-backer"?
Or signed-on perhaps by a worse non-life-form?