Classified documents from Biden's time as vice president discovered at Penn Biden Center

And how would that make any difference one way or the other?

 

Huh...so a 'double agent' is so easily exposed simply because their visit is logged? Really?

 

Let me get my tin foil hat and snug it down so I can believe that someone planted the documents....

The hits just keep rolling in.... .

Biden is innocent and the documents were planted and it's just a big conspiracy.

 

I was replying to the question of who visited. Do try to keep up with the rest of the group.

 

Wrong. If you read the link that you copied and pasted instead of just copying and pasting you would see that it says that if a President speaks to someone about the details of a classified document (while President) then it is declassified. And in that link it refers to one particular case where he bragged to Russian delegates about the details of an US Top Secret document. So that brings up another question. If Trump says that he declassified those documents, who did he tell US Top Secret information to?

 

Please provide a link that clearly defines the procedures a president must follow in order to declassify documents. Name the Act or the Regulations that provide the guidance needed for a president to declassify information.

 

I don't need to re-read it. If a POTUS can verbally declassify a document there might not be a written record. According to Kash Patel Trump did declassify the documents.

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politi...d-not-declassify-documents-oh-really-n1631383

That's considered an eyewitness record of events. All you can counter it with is to prove he's lying.

 

No, you can do that if you want. Now, if you're claiming that Zorro's links give wrong information then take it up with him as all I did was use the information provided in his link

 

Which documents did he say were declassified?

Is he one of those that said all documents have been given back to only afterwards the FBI found 100s more? Is he the one that said he would testify to then only reply "no comment" to every question asked?

 

This info has been presented and gone over ad nauseam on PF. I'm not going to repeat it just to have you ignore it again. You have nothing to offer to further the discussion. Enjoy the rest of your day.

 

I have tried and cannot find any procedures a president must follow to declassify documents. You seem to believe there are procedures so please provide the source..

 

And how does this record work? Is there a book that someone is supposed to sign when a document is declassified? What is the procedure a president must follow to declassify documents? Is there a regulation or an Act? If so please provide a source.

 

I have already said that I used the source that Zorro provided so ask him

 

He doesn't have to tell anyone. Telling someone something is not any legitimate process to declassify documents. It's declassified the moment he decides it is. That's his Constitutional power. Classifications do not apply to the President. He is the ultimate arbitrator. Congress cannot pass a law to take away a Constitutional authority from the president. They need to pass an amendment. @Zorro explained this to you very clearly. Not sure why it needs to be repeated.

 

Any Congressional act would be unconstitutional. It can only be a Constitutional amendment to take away this power.

 

What makes you think that a President can declassify a document given no one can find the procedure,?

 

Perhaps you could give the date when Trump went through everyone of those 100s of classified documents and declassified them and also the title of each declassified file?

And specifically where in the constitution does it say that a President can declassify any document whenever he wants. (We already know that he cannot declassify some documents)

 

The Constitution and Supreme Court precedent. Your turn. Why do you think Congress can override the Constitution without an amendment?

 

When he took them home he deemed them unclassified. Just like in your example, just prior to sharing the contents of the documents he deemed them unclassified. No process took place. No title and date and record was required or exists. Your example proves your argument is incorrect. As per the Supreme Court (and Constitution), this power exists for the President to determine at will. If you don't like it, call on Congress to pass an amendment.

You've been provided with a lot of sources:
1. The Constitution
2. The most recent Supreme Court ruling
3. An eyewitness that Trump considered the documents declassified

You have provided nothing. Absolutely nothing to refute any of it. Your confused arguments disprove your case. Wave the white flag already.

 

And yet there are some top secret documents that he cannot declassify so how does that fit into your argument?

 

Name a single Executive Branch document the President cannot declassify. Any Congressional piece of legislation that pretends to do so would have never been enforced before and would lose their case in court. Executive Branch documents are the President's work product. It's his to with as he pleases.

 

And then we have:

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...oQFnoECAsQAQ&usg=AOvVaw1vqobpEWi15FIU8eD3pQCQ

 

Actually yes, the President could give a nationwide address in which he reveals what was formerly classified information.

 

Trump was in active negotiations with the NA over his presidential records. Trump was storing them as he had been instructed. Biden has had six years to return them. The NA and DOJ should have learned not to trust the lawyer searches starting with Hillary Clinton.

We now know documents are all over the place and the information was of the highest nature in unsecured locations. Send in the FBI agents with search warrants let's treat this the same.

 

Please explain how any investigation could show the documents were being stored and had been handled properly? His lawyers have already said they were not and that it was an act of gross negligence.