Clinton Hypothetically Calls on Chinese to Interfere in the 2020 Elections on Behalf of Democrats

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  1. FreshAir

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    reality

    we could make up stuff like Trump if you want.. let's see Trump's Russian birth certificate... how's that?
     
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    Trying to run away wig your diversion now?

    Yes really says who?

     
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    Thanks for your interpretation on context, but anyone with nuclear missiles pointed at us is an actual enemy.
     
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    Nope.

    That's just your pathetic excuse for Hillary losing.

    Hillary lost because of Hillary. Trump won because of Trump.
     
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    "Because of his articles and writings that were critical of MBS"You

    Khashoggi was a member of the MB. Why would KSA want him dead for being critical of the MB? There must have been another motive.
     
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    The Clintons ran a souless campaign. Which is why Trump was able to beat HRC without even bothering to run ads.
     
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    Is Debbie Wasserman Schultz a GRU agent? ;-)

    “The brothers were also employed by members of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence and the House Committee on Foreign Affairs, such as: Jackie Speier (D-CA), Andre Carson (D-IN), Joaquín Castro (D-TX), Lois Frankel (D-FL), Robin Kelly (D-IL), and Ted Lieu (D-CA). Lieu has since openly called for leaks by members of President Trump's administration despite the fact that he may until recently have been under surveillance by a foreign entity.

    One bombshell that has been all but ignored by the main stream media is that Imran Awan had access to
    “The brothers were also employed by members of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence and the House Committee on Foreign Affairs, such as: Jackie Speier (D-CA), Andre Carson (D-IN), Joaquín Castro (D-TX), Lois Frankel (D-FL), Robin Kelly (D-IL), and Ted Lieu (D-CA). Lieu has since openly called for leaks by members of President Trump's administration despite the fact that he may until recently have been under surveillance by a foreign entity.

    One bombshell that has been all but ignored by the main stream media is that Imran Awan had access to Debbie Wasserman Schultz’s iPad password, meaning that the brothers also had direct access to the notorious DNC emails.”
    ZERO HEDGE, FBI Seized Crushed Hard Drives From Home Of Wasserman-Schultz' IT Aide, By Tyler Durden, Jul 24, 2017.
    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-...ed-hard-drives-home-wasserman-schultz-it-aide
     
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    Reasons why Hillary claims she lost:

    1. Former FBI Director James Comey

    "[A]s I explain in my book, you know, the Comey letter, which was, now we know, partly based on a false memo from the Russians. It was a classic piece of Russian disinformation — comprimat, they call it. So, for whatever reason, and I speculate, but I can’t look inside the guy’s mind, you know, he dumps that on me on October 28th, and I immediately start falling," said Hillary.

    She later added: "Remember, Comey was more than happy to talk about my emails, but he wouldn’t talk about the investigation of the Russians."

    2. Sexism

    "Men got paid for the speeches they made, and I got paid for the speeches I made. It was used, I thought it was unfairly used, and all of that, but it was part of the background music," whined Hillary.

    She also said, "I never said I was a perfect candidate, and I certainly have never said I ran perfect campaigns, but I don't know who is or did. And at some point it sort of bleeds into misogyny."

    3. The electoral system

    "I beat them both," Hillary told New York Magazine, speaking of her irrelevant popular vote win against Trump and her primary win-by-Super-Delegates to Bernie Sanders.

    4. WikiLeaks

    NY Magazine reports: "Clinton says she thinks she 'underestimated WikiLeaks and the impact that had, because I thought it was so silly.' Those hacked emails, dripped out over weeks, says Clinton, 'were innocuous, boring, inconsequential. And each one was played like it was some breathless flash. And so you got Trump, in the last month of the campaign, talking about WikiLeaks something like 164 times..."

    5. "Minions"

    "Clinton says she thinks she 'underestimated WikiLeaks and the impact that had, because I thought it was so silly.' Those hacked emails, dripped out over weeks, says Clinton, 'were innocuous, boring, inconsequential," reported New York Magazine. "And each one was played like it was some breathless flash. And so you got Trump, in the last month of the campaign, talking about WikiLeaks something like 164 times; you’ve got all his minions out there, you’ve got the right-wing media just blowing it up. You’ve got Google searches off the charts.'"

    6. Right-wing media

    "They have a mission," said Hillary of right-wing media. "They use the rights given to them under the First Amendment to advocate a set of policies that are in their interests, their commercial, corporate, religious interests. Because the advocacy media occupies the right, and the center needs to be focused on providing as accurate information as possible. Not both-sides-ism and not false equivalency."

    7. Mainstream media

    Hillary complained, "But what was really interesting, since the mainstream media covered that, as I say like Pearl Harbor, front pages everywhere, huge type, etc."

    8. Democratic National Committee

    "I had to inject money into it -- the DNC -- to keep it going," she said.

    9. Democrat Party

    "Let me just do a comparison for you. I set up my campaign and we have our own data operation. I get the nomination. So I’m now the nominee of the Democratic Party. I inherit nothing from the Democratic Party," cried the former secretary of state. "I mean it was bankrupt, it was on the verge of insolvency, its data was mediocre to poor, nonexistent, wrong. I had to inject money into it."

    10. 1,000 Russian agents

    "If you look at Facebook, the vast majority of the news items posted were fake. They were connected to, as we now know, the 1,000 Russian agents who were involved in delivering those messages," she said.

    11. Vladimir Putin

    "Putin wants to bring us down," she said. "And he is an old KGB agent. I had, obviously, run-ins with him, because that in large measure prompted his animus toward me, and his desire to help Trump."

    12. Donald Trump

    When Hillary was asked if she believed Trump was colluding with the Russians, she replied: "Yes ... yes. I’m leaning Trump. I think it’s pretty hard not to."

    13. Republican-enabled voter suppression

    "You had effective suppression of votes. Those of us who can remember the Voting Rights Act, the expansion of the franchise, and then I was in the Senate when we voted 98 to nothing under a Republican president, George W. Bush, to extend the Voting Rights Act," said Hillary.

    "And the Supreme Court said, 'Oh, we don’t need it anymore,' throws it out, and Republican governors and legislatures began doing everything they could to suppress the vote."

    14. Citizens United

    "You had Citizens United come to its full fruition. So unaccountable money flowing in against me, against other Democrats, in a way that we hadn’t seen and then attached to this weaponized information war," complained the failed candidate.

    15. Facebook

    "And there have been some studies done since the election that if you look — let’s pick Facebook. If you look at Facebook, the vast majority of the news items posted were fake."

    16. "Millions" of Twitter bots

    "We see now this new information about Trump’s Twitter account being populated by millions of bots," said Hillary.

    17. Steve Bannon

    "So Bannon, who’d been running the Breitbart operation, supplying a lot of the ... untrue, false stories," Hillary said.

    18. Netflix

    Yes, Hillary even blamed Neflix: "Go to Netflix and say you want to see a political documentary, eight of the top 10 — last time I checked a few weeks ago — were screeds against President Obama or me, or both of us."

    "Now, I love Netflix. We’re not making the documentaries that we’re going to get onto Netflix," she added.

    19. "Alt-right" media like Infowars

    "And they began to have some of their allies within the internet world, like Infowars, take out pieces and begin to say the most outrageous, outlandish, absurd lies you could imagine," whined Hillary.

    20. Bernie Sanders

    The Washington Examiner reports:

    "To what extent do you assign blame to Bernie Sanders, to media for focusing on emails – " Kristoff started to ask.

    "How much time do we have?" Clinton laughed after checking her watch.

    21. Suburban women

    22. Racism/Xenophobia

    "Trump does have a visceral grasp of the American politcal underbelly; he really understands how to inflame people," explained Hillary, "whatever resentment, or point of anger you may have, he can get into it -- whether it's race, xenophobia, or Islamophobia, whatever it is."

    23. "Anti-American forces"

    "I take responsibility for every decision I made, but that's not why I lost," she said. "Anti-American forces are going after our economy and they are going after our unity as a nation."

    24. Bad polling

    "Guided by Americans and guided by people who had polling and data information," Hillary said.

    25. Low-information voters

    26. Content farms in Macedonia

    "You know, there’s all these stories of guys over in Macedonia who are running these fake news sites and I’ve seen them now and you sit there and it looks like a sort of low-level CNN operation," Hillary said, after decrying these Macedonia's "content farms."

    27. Fake news

    "The other side was using content that was just flat-out false, and delivering it in a very personalized way, both sort of above the radar screen and below. And you know, look, I’m not a tech expert by any stretch of the imagination. That really influenced the information that people were relying on," Hillary said.

    28. Colluding Trump campaign officials

    "We're getting more information about all of the contacts between Trump campaign officials and Trump associates with Russians before, during and after the election," said Hillary.

    29. Stupid Americans who can't tell the difference between real and "fake news"

    30. The "broad assumption I was going to win"

    "I also think I was the victim of a very broad assumption I was going to win. 'It doesn’t matter what you do to her ...'"

    31. Goosefer

    "You know, basically the group running this was the GRU which is the military intelligence arm of the Russian military and they have a very sophisticated cyber operation, in bed with WikiLeaks, in bed with Goosefer, in bed with DC Leaks," said Hillary.

    32. DCLeaks

    "And you know, DC Leaks and Goosefer, which were dropping a lot of this stuff on me, they haven’t done anything since early January. Their job was done," she said. "They got their job done."

    33. Data from the Republican National Committee

    "I think that the marriage of the domestic fake news operations, the domestic RNC Republican allied data, you know, combined with the very affective capabilities that the Russians brought," said the Democrat.

    34. Technology

    "And what we saw was, in the election particularly, and I appreciate what Walt said, the first time that you had the tech revolution really weaponized politically — before it was a way to reach voters, you know, collect fundraising, do things that would help the candidate who was behind the messaging — that changed this time, and it changed for a number of reasons we should talk about," said Hillary.

    35. The FBI

    36. The GRU

    "You know, basically the group running this was the GRU which is the military intelligence arm of the Russian military and they have a very sophisticated cyber operation," complained Hillary, "in bed with WikiLeaks, in bed with Goosefer, in bed with DC Leaks."

    37. Deplorables

    "And all of the Trump people go around screaming, 'Lock her up, lock her up,' and all of that," cried Hillary.

    38. Team Hillary was too honest

    "And we did not engage in false content," she said. "We may have tried to put every piece of information in the best possible light, and explanations, but we weren’t in the same category as the other side."

    And the one she got right:

    39. Hillary Clinton
    "You can blame the data, blame the message, blame anything you want - but I was the candidate. It was my campaign. Those were my decisions."
     
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    I am reading this document for the half dozenth time. Still can't figure out who they got this from or why it was got? We know it was said to be got by Obama since it was published when he was president.
    https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/ICA_2017_01.pdf
     
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    My point was quite clear. The email dump happened within hours of Trump asking for them to be released, and they did not come from Australian hackers, they came from Russian intelligence and transmitted to WikiLeaks for disposition.
     
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    Amen to her point 39
     
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    yep, fact that the Trump tower meeting happened, Trump lied about it, then obstructed multiple times
     
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    reality
     
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    I could care less why she lost, that is history, I am just stating the facts
     
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    Now she is someone the DOJ and Bill Barr need to talk to. More like, she needs to be investigated.
     
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    Yea, right, big mystery. It wasn't like Assange wasn't announcing on his website when he would release emails. :roflol:

    All anyone had to do was read it. The emails from the DNC and what they did were pretty damning, to say the least. Like a criminal enterprise complaining that all of their criminal activities were being exposed and that was against the law.

    Well, at least Hillary made $145 million off Putin, just cost America 20% of our Uranium and security.
     
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    Find that announcement from Julian Assange for that specific date and I might take you seriously. The Uranium One deal has been explained countless numbers of times, but the right doesn't want to read it, understand it or accept it because if they did, that would mean they would no longer be able to beat that tired old drum ever again.
     
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    Sorry, MBS isn't the Muslim Brotherhood, it's Mohammad bin Salman bin Abdulaziz Al Saud, the crown prince of Saudi Arabia and the current Deputy Prime Minister. The guy who ordered Khashoggis killing
     
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    Source with dates please.
     
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    Why Debbie Wasserman Schultz and everyone involved has not been brought before a grand jury is a mystery that will probably be solved soon.
     
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    Society of the Muslim Brothers is frequently referred to as MBs. I assumed that was what you were referring to.

    Yes, he was an enemy of the KSA royals. Historically royals have frequently murdered their enemies.
     
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    yeah, my apologies for that. Should have been clearer :)
     
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    Russians tried to hack Clinton server on day Trump urged email search
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...hillary-clinton-email-server-trump-indictment

    Russian spies began trying to hack Hillary Clinton’s personal email server on the very day Donald Trump urged the Russian government to find emails Clinton had erased, prosecutors said on Friday.

    An indictment filed by Robert Mueller, the special counsel, said Russian hackers attempted “for the first time” to break into email accounts used by Clinton’s personal office “after hours” on 27 July 2016.

    That day, at an event in Florida, Trump invited the Russian state to search for the approximately 30,000 emails that Clinton was found to have deleted from her private server on the grounds that they were not related to government work.
    “Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing,” Trump said. “I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press.”

    Trump’s message of encouragement has become notorious since US intelligence agencies concluded that Russia hacked the email of senior Democrats as part of a wide-ranging operation to damage Clinton’s campaign and assist Trump. The US alleged the operation was personally directed by president Vladimir Putin.

    Trump urges Russia to hack Clinton's email
    https://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/trump-putin-no-relationship-226282

    The campaign later attempted to clarify Trump's remarks, saying he wanted Russia to hand over the emails if they had them.
    Donald Trump invited Russia to hack Hillary Clinton's emails on Wednesday, asking one of America’s longstanding geopolitical adversaries to find “the 30,000 emails that are missing” from the personal server she used during her time as secretary of state.

    “I will tell you this, Russia: If you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing,” the Republican nominee said at a news conference in Florida. “I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press.”

    Trump’s comments set off an immediate uproar from the Clinton campaign, which blasted the remarks as a threat to national security.

    “This has to be the first time that a major presidential candidate has actively encouraged a foreign power to conduct espionage against his political opponent,” Hillary for America policy adviser Jake Sullivan said in a statement. "That’s not hyperbole, those are just the facts. This has gone from being a matter of curiosity, and a matter of politics, to being a national security issue."

    The Coincidence at the Heart of the Russia Hacking Scandal
    A new indictment charges that Russians tried to hack Hillary Clinton’s emails on July 27, 2016—the same day that Donald Trump publicly asked them to do so.
    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/07/russia-hacking-trump-mueller/565157/

    “I will tell you this: Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing,” he said. “I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press.”

    The president was encouraging a foreign adversary to illegally hack into messages by a former secretary of state that might contain sensitive information, then release them publicly.

    Trump had good reason to believe that Russia was listening. The previous month, his son, Donald Jr.; son-in-law, Jared Kushner; and campaign chairman, Paul Manafort, had a meeting at Trump Tower with Russians who they believed were offering damaging information about Clinton. (The meeting wasn’t revealed to the public until 2017, and both the Russians and the Trump campaign officials say no dirt was exchanged.) Prior to the meeting, Trump Jr. had received an email stating that the meeting was “ part of Russia and its government’s support for Mr. Trump.”

    The indictment notes that WikiLeaks released a tranche of emails allegedly stolen by Russia on July 22, 2016—just three days before the DNC, a convenient stroke of timing for Trump. Then, on October 7, 2016, WikiLeaks released another batch of hacked emails within hours of the revelation of the Access Hollywood tape, in which Trump is overheard boasting about sexually assaulting women.
     

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