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Did I mention Libya anywhere in my last post?

 

There are a great number of people, of many races, who embrace the meaning of the battle flag. Black people who are of this understanding are a minority... I would think you would be inclined to protect black minorities, not insult them...

My study of the flag and its history leads me to a different conclusion than you about its meaning. I am happy to have a drawn out exploration of that, but would ask that you not demean and dehumanize any of our fellow black citizens who share my belief. Think you can manage?

 

Yes I'm aware of revisionist history, but I was around before it started.

 

Depends. Can you manage to get me to care?

 

Whether or not you care about truth or history has nothing to do with me or my efforts. We do what we do because of who we are, not because of what others do.

 

Yes, I pretty much feel the same way. Also, you have good points on prostitution.

 

BS laws are unconstitutional laws like some of the drug laws.

People don't serve full terms because prisons are overcrowded. The police should prioritize violent crime over drug busts, but they don't. Prisons should also try to keep violent offenders in for as long as possible or not let them out at all.

America has an embarrassing prison rate and that's because of some of these unconstitutional laws and corporate interests.

 

And the alcohol distributors?

The cigarette industry?

The tv dope dealing opiate industry? Opiates kill ~45 people per day.

What do you think about all these I wonder.

 

You took a serious issue of human right violation in another country to make a stupid political argument in ours.

If we lower our standard to Libya, sure, blacks should be grateful. But, this is the United States of America, we have or try to have high standard for human rights and freedom.

Most white people in this country don't see things from the eyes of minority. Don't tell NFL players to see things from the eyes of these poor souls in that **** hole country.

 

Sorry, but crack and meth are exponentially more addictive and deadly substances than alcohol or tobacco.

 

You know what? When we talk about gays liberals on this board tell us about all the gay friends they have.

When we talk about Muslims liberals on this board tell us about all the Muslim friends they have.

When we talk about refugees liberals on this board tell us about all the refugee friends they have.

Let me tell you something, directly across the street from me are three college students who just moved in, two Saudis and a Kuwaiti. On the first day I went to them and introduced myself and told them we all need to get together, my only concern is should I bring beer or not. Now I've been told by people on this board that I'm Islamophobic and mentioning my new neighbors will probably bring about the exact argument you just made. BTW, I had a black roommate for 2 years and a close cousin of mine married a black fireman. I was married to girl for 12 years who is 100% Puerto Rican and I work, live and breathe surrounded by Mexicans.

How many white friends do you have and does having them make you a racist?

 

Yes those poor millionaire black guys who get payed to throw a ball, and who dominate professional sports.

They're so downtrodden, those guys.

We're not telling them to look through the eyes of a Libyan, we're telling them to look through their own eyes at how lucky they are to be Americans.

 

Liberals in this country whine every day about how we're not perfect and that needs to change. My thread injects a dose of reality into the equation. Did your parents ever tell you to finish your meal because people are starving in India or some other god forsaken place? It's called being grateful, liberals demand stuff all the time but never stop to appreciate what they already have.

 

Why did you skip opioids? Opioids are deadlier than crack and meth. Alcohol is deadlier than crystal meth.

 

I find statements like this to be offensive.

Most of these "minorities" don't walk around with a perpetual victim complex so they wouldn't have some alternative view of the world.

Therefore there is no need for "White people" to try and see things through their eyes because we would just see the exact same things that we already do: love for family, love for country, desire for prosperity, etc.

As for the perpetual victim types, we need not ponder too hard on what they see because we were all children once so we can just remember what it was like to be a snotty bratty self absorbed infant walking around demanding the world be handed to us.

 

I agreed with you until that last sentence. The laws do not conflict with the Constitution, so you are wrong about that.

"Corporate interests"...? Some 'White-collar criminals' in corporations commit crimes of many different kinds, but aside from them, how does 'crime', per se, help any legitimate, law-abiding company?

But, yes, prisons are overcrowded -- no doubt about that! We need to build a lot more prisons, preferable simple, bare-bones structures inside camps, surrounded by guard-towers and barbed-wire. We could locate them on any of the vast tracts of wide-open land in places like Utah and Nevada. And if anybody tries to escape? They get shot!

Maybe if 'prison' wasn't such a relatively pleasant place for criminals to park their lazy asses, while being fed three times a day for free, with many of the comforts of home, we wouldn't have so much overcrowding....

. Typical prison recreation room....

 

Crack Cocaine:
Not all physical signs of crack addiction are as easy to detect as the ones above. Long-term health effects can build up slowly over time, causing chronic health problems for the addict that can ultimately be deadly. Liver failure, kidney failure, respiratory issues, heart problems and more can begin or worsen with long-term crack addiction. In fact, many reports suggest that the life expectancy of those who begin using crack regularly is only five years from the onset of addiction.
https://rehab-international.org/crack-addiction/warning-signs

As far heroin and other opiates:
"Heroin itself does not cause inevitable mental or physical deterioration or permanent brain damage. The user can retain normal coordination and judgment, but is subject to a host of maladies from the injection of the drug and its corollary effects. Use of dirty or shared needles can cause infectious or serum hepatitis, septicemia (blood poisoning that leads to abscesses in the blood vessels), and subacute bacterial endocarditis. Tetanus, gangrene, lockjaw, and cardiovascular and lung abnormalities are not uncommon occurrences. Abuse of the veins can result in their collapse or clotting and a resultant deadening of the limbs, sleep may be fitful and a heavy dose can- lead to unconsciousness. Because the addict is impervious to pain and hunger, his general physical condition is usually poor. Inadequate nutrition and the inability to cough can lead to malnutrition, pneumonia, and chronic bronchitis. The addict has frequent accidents and may meet a violent death, either in the pursuit of his supply or as a result of his detachment from reality

There is another whole list of likely effects caused by the lifestyle of the user, not the heroin he's injecting. These effects apply to the dog-eat-dog existence of the average street junkie, who pays inflated prices in the black market for his diluted and adulterated fix, and must run the gauntlet of ghetto crime and disease just to stay alive. There are also many middle-class, "respectable" addicts who get their legal opiate supply from the pharmacist. A high rate of such addiction exists among health professionals: doctors, their wives or husbands, nurses, and druggists, who can easily and quietly feed their habits for pennies a day. Although these users are no less addicted, society saves its scorn for the stereotypical junkie--the minority-member street runner, who steals, lies, cheats, or sells to other addicts in order to get his next fix. The street junkie's degrading and degenerative lifestyle is not caused by heroin, but by its lack of legal availability. When it is readily available as opiates can be for middle-class professionals, the drug does not have to affect the user's life, family, or job in a negative way."
From www.drugtext.org

 

It conflicts with the Constitution like prohibition conflicted with it.

When I said corporate interests, I was talking about corporations that use prison labor to do jobs that low-skilled laborers do. Jobs like data entry, farming, sewing, call-center work, etc.

You wish to build more prisons? We already imprison more people per capita than Communist countries while spouting off about freedom.

LOL @ the image. Doesn't look like a prison at all.

 

You basically stated the effects of these substances and didn't address the fact that alcohol is still deadlier than these, yet isn't criminalized. I mean, I could mention how alcohol causes alcohol-hepatitis, cirrhosis, liver disease, etc. I can talk about how alcohol abuse has caused domestic violence, rape, and drunk driving deaths. Alcohol issues are downplayed and ignored even though the abuse of it harms the individual and others.

To the last paragraph, yes I agree. It doesn't make the war on drugs any less prohibition-like and unconstitutional.

 

Not every black guy is a millionaire athlete.

I think it's good that these football players use the little power that they have to bring to light a serious issue among black people.

Then no American should whine about ANYTHING at all.

Stop whining about illegal immigrants.
Stop whining about gay marriages.
Stop whining about "establishment"

Because your life is still much better than 80% of the people on earth, and you should be grateful and quit your whining. Right?

Do not tell other people who strive for a better life to look at how worse others may have it, especially when your intention is not to comfort them but to **** on them.

 

Well, the fact of the matter is that alcohol is not nearly as addictive as crack and heroin. And those who drink it may only have something like a 10%chance of being addicted to it. Also, alcoholics can live for years. There are also enough nutrients in beer and other drinks to sustain someone for years. Drunks can live to a very advanced age, whereas junkies typically die off by their 50's.

I did drink more in my 20's in the military and college, but rarely to excess. And now I average 2 beers a month. Had I been so foolish to try cocaine, I'd very likely be dead. There are more alcoholics---yet substance for substance, narcotics like crack, meth and heroin off the street are vastly worse.

 

You have a poor grasp of the Constitution, obviously. Do you understand that it can be amended? Obviously not....

Corporations use prison labor to work in customer-interfacing call-centers, and enter data? Please name one corporation that does this. Just ONE.

As far as prisons are concerned, if we have a growing number of criminals, then obviously we need a greater number of prisons. And although I have already agreed with you that we probably should decriminalize the medical and recreational use and sale of marijuana throughout the nation, those are not the big problem areas in this country. (Look for more and more individual, sovereign states to legalize marijuana).

 

I know you are trying to cover for your bros in the narcotics trade. However, I have no mercy for them. You also don't like the fact that about 80% of murders in places like Chicago with around 700 murders a year, are directly linked to the drug trade. And so many horrible people are in prison for selling these poisons.

More people drink than use dangerous narcotics. Alcohol is a naturally occurring substance that has long been part of many cultures. If Alcohol was as bad as crack, then most drinkers would be dead by age 40.

 

Most addictive doesn't necessarily mean most deadly. Alcohol is still the deadliest drug in the united states and its not even close. "It’s involved in more homicides than pretty much every other substance, combined." -Pollack

We tolerate alcohol because the alternative is prohibition level ganglands. Ganglands with leaders like Capone, Luciano, Nitti, Dillenger. Now we have a new prohibition era and with it notorious areas with massive gangland crime. Prohibition never works on vices. Gotta do something else.

 

The 21st Amendment repealed the 18th. For good reason. The new age prohibition era has the same hallmarks of the alcoholic prohibition era. Time to rethink some of these laws.

Name one corporation that uses prison labor for call-centers? Sure: American Airlines (Link: some prison labor companies).

We can criminalize anyone we want. If the US decided to adopt Sharia Law, for example, then we'd have an incredible amount of criminals. See what I mean? You want more criminals, sure, just create more BS laws.

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Anyone interested in knowing more can look up the Prison Industries Act.