Congress just voted to let internet providers sell your browsing history

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  1. MrTLegal

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    https://techcrunch.com/2017/03/28/house-vote-sj-34-isp-regulations-fcc/

    The Republicans and Trump are really quite **** at passing the big ticket items on which Trump campaigned; however, they are quite good at all of the standard Republican fare that they don't like to brag about - like allowing Coal companies to dump their ash into rivers, allowing energy companies to hide their contributions to foreign governments, and allowing internet companies to sell your private information without your consent.

    How is this helping the forgotten man? How does this put Americans back to work? How does this make America great again?
     
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    Big Business has a right to know everything you do. The Republicans are right to ensure they have all your private information.
     
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    This helps corporate America, it's all marketing information, what people do, what they look at online, their age, their interests their gender, etc etc so marketers can target them with ads.

    Nope it does nothing for the everyday American, everyone cracks up over the NSA spying on them Corporate America is probably worse :lol:
     
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    IMG_1687.JPG What's with the elves defending free speech in here?
     
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    scarlet witch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    from elf to cat meme

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    there is a market for ISP's that don't do this.
     
  7. Daniel Light

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    Elves have always fought against the Dark Lord.

    Lot of dudes are going to be surprised when their wife's divorce attorney shows up with the history of their web activity.
    But Republican lawmakers have your back - right?

    Not.
     
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    I didn't know they couldn't!

    From what I've observed whatever I search for online becomes the subject of advertising at any websites with advertising I visit. It's obnoxious because it's always too late, by the time they've filled ad space with whatever I searched for I've moved on. I'd be very surprised if this was illegal before, it was commonplace. Maybe it doesn't apply to Google (my favored search engine)?
     
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    Nothing to hide, nothing to fear is how I see it. If it catches a few paedophiles and jihadists then surely it can only be a good thing? [​IMG]
     
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    It doesn't, it's anti-American legislation that allows corporations to shift through your data and basically breach into your privacy. We should have an amendment stating that private information stored on a computer is treated legally as the same thing as your general space and thus protected by the 4th Amendment.
     
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    All these Red clowns are the first to talk about upholding the constitution. They then trample on the constitution at almost every turn.
     
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    This is such a bad argument on so many levels.

    First off - privacy rights are not just about YOU. Just because you do not care about your privacy - does not give you the right to take privacy rights away from others.

    Nothing to fear ? It is how common this kind of ignorance is that is scary.

    The reason individual rights and freedoms were put "Above" the legitimate power of Gov't was not to protect from pedophiles or jihadists. It was to protect you from the Gov't.

    There were many people who had much to fear from our Gov't during the days of Douglas McCarthy. Power corrupts and more power corrupts more. Giving the Gov't more power on the basis of "I have nothing to hide" is loony.

    It is not so much that our Gov't is that bad now. The problem is what happens when the Gov't does go bad. And Gov't always goes bad. Then what ?

    These protections in the Constitution and principles in the declaration of independence were put there in order to prevent the Gov't from going bad by limiting the power of Gov't.

    The idea of taking away these protections on the basis of "I'm not worried - I have nothing to hide" is beyond reckless. Do you not care about your kids or grandchildren ? Perhaps you do not have... either way... do you not care about the future for others ?

    My guess is that you just have not thought things through.
     
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    Your right to privacy and protection of your personal data is unimportant?
    Well ... since the majority of the Americans make only a shrug abiut it since Bush administration, and like to play the glass citizens for the government, why not for the corporations?
     
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    I never post unless I've properly thought things through. I'm afraid this isn't a perfect world so I accept everything as I see it, and catching paedophiles and jihadists leave everything else standing in my book. Why this should have any bearing on my kids and grandchildren escapes me - except that it prevents them being violated by perverted adults, and blown to kingdom come by mad jihadists.
     
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    It has bearing on your kids because in removing the safegaurds against Gov't going bad you are expediting the process.

    Do you want your kids to live in a quazi totalitarian police state because this is what you are advocating.
     
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    There is a quote from Benjamin Franklin, which is still valid today:

    "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."

    The right of privacy and protection of my personal data is more as essential!
     
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    If a government decides to go totalitarian there's nothing anyone can do about it because it will override your Utopian dream whether you have freedom of expression or not. All we can do is hope our 'democratic' ones don't, and all the time we toe their lines, they probably won't; but there it is - we're merely ants in an anthill, and can be crushed underfoot in the blink of an eye by 'the system'. All this 'I don't agree with what you say but will defend to the death your right to say it.' is abject nonsense: for example would you defend to the death someone's right of expression? No, of course you wouldn't, and you know it. So all we can do is make the best of what we've got. Idealism is one thing, reality quite another.
     
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    You can have your privacy easily if you want it, it's your own fault if you don't have it..
     
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    Elaborate, without using the word "Tor".
     
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    Broadband privacy vote may spur VPN's...
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    US Vote to Repeal Broadband Privacy Rules Sparks Interest in VPNs
    March 29, 2017 - The vote by the U.S. Congress to repeal rules that limit how internet service providers can use customer data has generated renewed interest in an old internet technology: virtual private networks, or VPNs.
     
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    Educate yourself..
     
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    Says the science-denier.

    You can't make this stuff up.
     
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    Block ads. Since this info is presumably sold to advertisers to be used for targeted advertising, it will be all for naught if you simply block them.
     
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    That lies under don't believe every conjecture you come across..
     
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    This is not good. If your about to get a divorce beware that now your spouse can find out what you have been hiding as their lawyer can now request your search history. Ever buy a roll of duct tape off the internet? Well maybe we need to find out if your a pipe bomb terrorist. What news are you reading? Fake news just might land you in jail. Like your e-mail isn't already full of crap, now, expect to receive all kinds of stuff. Beware, the scammers are already preparing to send you a link that will look so real from someone you deal with or know and drop a little malware to obtain your personal accounts and passwords. Will it come from Amazon, Facebook, Google, SnapChat?
     
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