Conservatism is the low road

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by 3link, Apr 23, 2017.

  1. RPA1

    RPA1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They don't think...That's the problem they just regurgitate far left talking points.
     
  2. Zorro

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    The real crazies are in academia:

    IF IT WEREN’T FOR FAKE HATE CRIMES, HOW MANY HATE CRIMES WOULD THERE BE? ISU professor arrested, accused of making up threats and attack. “Azhar Hussain, an assistant professor at ISU has been arrested on charges alleging he made false reports of anti-Islamic threats against him and even reported an attack authorities say did not happen.”
     
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    So is liberalism, you merely change the targets.
     
  4. Greystone

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    It's not the easy road to walk when it is politically and socially unpopular to present conservative views. The easy road is to take the liberal stances; you'll be lauded on social media and the press, you'll get to bask in your feelings of validation as the mainstream establishment pats you on the head for parroting their views. This entire high road/low road dynamic is just inconsequential to me. The Left fetishizes having political views that conform to this trendy sense of progressive morality, I don't.

    Basically no conservative thinks this, you are just throwing up straw men. Conservatives see a terrorist attack and think it is indicative of deep seated violent doctrines in the Muslim religion, not that every single Muslim is responsible. Your few bad apples cliche is consistently torn apart in deeper discussions. Only a small minority of any group actually commits violence in its name. Only a fringe minority of Germans actually participated in the Holocaust; but if you polled all Germans at the time, you would see huge percentages of people who would admit to wanting all of the Jews exterminated or expelled from Europe. Now with Islam only a fringe minority are actually chopping off heads and blowing themselves up, but huge percentages of Muslims support the oppressive aspects of the religion like death for apostates, genital mutilation, death penalty for gays, etc.

    Muh racism, muh bigotry.

    Don't you have anything new to accuse the Right of that doesn't devolve into these boring tirades? We've heard these accusations a million times and no one cares. The funny thing is that you probably think an accusation of racism or bigotry still has power to intimidate people into shutting up; it doesn't anymore. The Left has cried wolf too many times and people just ignore this political Tourette syndrome of howling racist at everything. Once everyone the Left disagrees with is Literally Hitler, they've run out of name-calling ammo and actually have to engage ideas that trigger them.


    Tell this to everyone who lived in pre-Islamic North Africa, Spain, and Byzantium, as well as to the Eastern European countries conquered and dominated by the Ottoman Caliphate. Tell this to Indians whose civilization was literally ripped apart by conflicts stemming from Islam's expansion into the Indian subcontinent. India only had a minority Muslim population and the strife was so great the two populations (Hindu and Muslim) had to be separated into different countries. Considering how poor Islam's track record looks do you honestly believe if a country like France became majority Muslim that it would be substantially no different from France today?

    Do you have any more empty platitudes you want to share with us in this thread?

    Culture is more than just superficial things like music, food, and fashion, it's also manifested in a country's laws, political tradition, and mores. Islam is a supremacist religion, and its devoted adherents have nothing but contempt for law not predicated on Islamic principles or dogmas.

    I'm a non-Christian, point invalid.
     
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    As I said before, conservatives like to play the victim card. Did you forget that you keep reminding us that Trump won the election? I guess conservatives are a minority.

    Liberals have a hold on institutions of higher learning. I suppose you are surprised that the education tend to prefer liberal values.

    Many people are offended by conservative views. I suppose it has to do with the fact that many conservative views are rooted in bigotry.

    More victim card playing. "Bo ho. My views aren't in the majority" (which is wrong anyway).

    I'm sure there are exceptions to this but I doubt most people choose political positions that will make them more popular. Besides, if that were the case, there would be a difference between what those people actually believe and what they say in public. I'm saying that people who actually embrace conservative values privately are intellectually lazy--regardless of what views they take publicly.

    Sorry but you're wrong and we both know it.

    I have no doubt that there are conservatives who embrace this view, but it is almost as stupid as thinking all mooslims are responsible for terrorist attacks. What is the ratio of Muslims to Muslim terrorists? Thinking that a tiny fraction of Muslims represent the religion is asinine.

    I wonder if you even see the irony here. What if I said "only a fringe minority of conservatives hate gays, blacks, mexicans and mooslims, but if you polled them you would find that a significant number of conservatives think America would be better without those people." If your statement is true, so is mine.

    You don't have to shut up. You just have to face facts and face your shame. Conservative views are largely built on bigotry. The first step to fixing that is acknowledging the problem. Bigotry existed well before Hitler. Besides, I'm not the one who Godwined this thread.

    Are you actually comparing Muslim immigrants to Ottoman conquerors?

    You think there is a risk that France will become majority muslim by accepting Muslim immigrants? You must realize that is a controversial position with no basis in reality. I mean, it's unsupportable half-baked thoughts like this that convince me that your ideology is driven by bigotry.

    Doesn't seem like many of the other religions that shaped this country had any significant impact on our laws, unless you're one of the folks who think our laws are based on Judaeo-christian principles. So I don't see any reason to believe Islam will shape our laws.
     
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    The left does win here, admittedly, because the left/Democrats consist of actual racists and bigots, not fabricated ones, underclass inferiors of all races on the Democrat vote-slave plantations,... and ALL THE CRIMINALS AND RAPISTS TOO! union thugs, corrupt machine crooks, scum who shill for public unions and create lie narratives doing untold social damage. Yep, the Democrats got it all, racists, bigots, inferior weak dirtbags, and a vast majority of the real criminals in the country... and always have.

    Of that worthy lot, the criminals are actually the least inferior of the Democrats'/LW core groups, because unlike the rank and file of the LW/Democrats, they actually do their own dirty work, break in, steal, do violence, instead of average cowardly leftists of the gov-edu-union-contractor-grantee-trial lawyer-MSM Complex who rely on the government gun barrel to steal for them.

    One of the only things they do well, besides lie and steal is project their characteristics onto any who dare disagree with them. This projection is one of the hallmarks of mental illness, one of the things that identifies them and their sick, weak ideology as headcases. Hence near infinite projection threads like this. Are they fooling you? or can you see the crazy shining right through the OP post?

    This OP, as usual, strains the limits of vapidity in the above quoted portion with fallacies upon fallacies. For example:

    It's not -conservatism- that the people are running towards, it's the lies, racism, misogyny, fascism, crime, graft, corruption, incompetence, mental illness, violence, propaganda, and plain stupidity of the Democrats and LW that we are RUNNING AWAY FROM.

    It's not -conservatism- that the people are running towards, it's the lies, racism, misogyny, fascism, crime, graft, corruption, incompetence, mental illness, violence, propaganda, and plain stupidity of the Democrats and LW that we are RUNNING AWAY FROM.

    It's not -conservatism- that the people are running towards, it's the lies, racism, misogyny, fascism, crime, graft, corruption, incompetence, mental illness, violence, propaganda, and plain stupidity of the Democrats and LW that we are RUNNING AWAY FROM.
     
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    Mexico and the left have one thing in common. When you look at the antifa riots and what a massive failure they've been.

    "When they send us their people, they're not sending their best, they're not sending their brightest..."
     
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    Every time I hear this, I think of the level of dialog that goes on with LW/Democrats here on this forum and get a chuckle. If they had any sliver of self-awareness, they'd make at least -some- effort to up their game. But I guess they probably -are- sending their best here. Sad.
     
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    True. I take it back. Mexicans are better because they have better ones who are happy and successful living in Mexico.

    But the left? Antifa and ***** hats are the best they got.
     
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    Why is it when I see the title of this thread I want to break out into song?

    You take the high road, and I'll take the low road, and I'll get to Scottland before you... :sing:
     
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    no you didn't. you noted a phenomenon and gave us your bigoted explanation for its occurrence. there were only two real facts in evidence in the op. one is that there are islamic jihadists spreading mayhem in the non-muslim world, the other is that there are millions of people from central and south america in this country illegally. it doesn't matter whether their skin is black, white, brown or green, these are things that should not be and are not tolerated in any civilized nation on earth and only a fool would do anything to make either of these any easier to accomplish. that their skin may be darker than lily white is your raison d'etre, not mine or any other conservative of my acquaintance. their brown skin enables you to hiss "racissss" at every turn, regardless of the actual reasoning behind our objections, and to feel secure on your imaginary moral high ground. this is the only laziness i see here, your childish insistence that brown skin somehow equates to a natural need for idjits like you to come in on your white horses and save their sorry butts.
     
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    ANTIFA GOONS PANIC After Masked Professor Who Bludgeoned Trump Supporter with Bike Lock Is IDENTIFIED & EXPOSED

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