Conservatives lie about history to exonerate conscience

Question's for Democrats: Answers at the link:


1. Does The Democratic Party Owe Blacks An Apology?

2. Did The Republican Party Fight For Black Freedom And Equality?

3. Were The Anti-Civil War “Copperheads” Democrats?

4. Did The 1863 Emancipation Proclamation Free All Blacks From Slavery?

5. Did The 1964 Civil Rights Act Grant Blacks The Right To Citizenship?

6. Did The 1965 Voting Right Act Grant Blacks The Right To Vote?

7. Did The Democratic Party Pass Those Black Codes And Jim Crow Laws?

8. Did Republicans Pass The Civil Rights Laws Of The 1800s?

9. Did Democrats Repeal The Civil Rights Laws Of The 1800s?

10. Did Democrats Support The “Separate But Equal” Doctrine?

11. Was The Ku Klux Klan The Terrorist Arm Of The Democratic Party?

12. Did Republicans Pull All Troops Out Of The South After The 1877 Compromise?

13. Did Republicans Establish The NAACP And HBCUs?

14. Did Republicans Put Up The Confederate Flag?

15. Did The Parties Switch Sides On Racism?

16. Did The “Dixiecrats” Become Republicans?

17. Was Republican President Richard Nixon’s “Southern Strategy” A Racist Appeal?

18. Did Republicans Push To Achieve The “Brown v. Board of Education” Decision?

19. Did Republican President Richard Nixon Start Affirmative Action?

20. Did Democrat President Woodrow Wilson Kick All Blacks Out of Federal Government Jobs?

21. Did Republican President Eisenhower Achieve The Desegregation Of The Military?

22. Did Democrat President Franklin D. Roosevelt’s “New Deal” Harmed Blacks?

23. Was Republican Senator Everett Dirksen The Key To Modern-era Civil Rights Legislation?

24. Was Democrat President Lyndon Johnson A Civil Rights Advocate?

25. Was Democrat President John F. Kennedy A Civil Rights Advocate?

26. Did President Kennedy Make The Call That Got Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. Out of Jail?

27. Was Senator Barry Goldwater A Racist?

28. Was Republican Strategist Lee Atwater A Racist?

29. Was David Duke Embraced by Republicans?

30. Do Most Blacks Vote For Democrats Today Because Democrats Help Blacks Prosper?

31. Did Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. Write An Autobiography?

32. Was Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. A Republican?

33. Do Democrats Talk Tolerance, But Practice Intolerance?

34. Did Democrats Smear Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.?

35. Is The Democratic Party The Party Of The Rich?

36. Do Republicans Stop Blacks From Voting With Voter ID Laws?

37. Is The Democratic Party The Party Of Socialism?

38. Do Republicans Cut Programs For Poor Blacks?

39. What Have Republicans Done For Blacks Lately?

40. Has President Barack Obama Caused Great Harm To Blacks?
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LOL, stick a fork in this one. The only remaining question is how soon will this particular LW sewer pipe false advertisement pop up again here on PF?

 

Be a lot easier to list the things conservatives don't lie about,
Here is the list,


Thats it.
They lie about everything and this thread prove it.
Any con that has made the claim it's the evil liberals that are the racists today, they know they are lying.

 

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Good list of questions. The long history of virulent DP racism is not subtle.

 

What a compelling, fact-filled argument, much more well-reasoned and coherent than the average LW post here. Bravo!

 

I don't believe in social justice at all.

Myself, I wonder if the Left wants to destroy our country and the West out of insanity or malevolence.

 

Well, what other redeeming feature did he have?

Wrecked the whole country for no good reason. Should have just left the South sucede.

 

Black families at the time tended to be larger and poorer. Exactly what did she say at the Klan Rally she spoke at?

 

I'll bite.

Yes, claiming victories or defeats based on what the parties did 80 years ago is silly--I totally agree. I also agree that conservatives are the more racist group, but I simply don't care because they believe other things that make more sense. Racism, bigotry, and misogyny just aren't the big deals to me that they are for liberals. I do care about the rich screwing the powerless over (I think class warfare is real), but I don't see the liberals truly standing up for this issue anyway.

I think homogeneous societies work better than heterogeneous ones, think traditional sex roles are better than non-traditional roles, and believe in hierarchy within human populations.

If you wanted your admission, here you go.

 

Dr. Alveda King, the niece of legendary human rights campaigner, Rev. Martin Luther King Jr., told a meeting of Priests for Life, that the killing of a quarter of the black population of the US has not been from the lynch mobs of her childhood days, but from abortionists, “who plant their killing centres in minority neighbourhoods and prey upon women who think they have no hope."

“The great irony,” she said, “is that abortion has done what the Klan only dreamed of."



MLK and others were bamboozled by her real intent just like people were bamboozled by Hitler.

 

Well yes, that would certainly explain why black folks and pretty much every other racial minority are such enthusiastic, strong and loyal supporters of the Republican party.

 

I was hoping someone like you would respond in this fashion and validate everything that was written in the OP. The fact is you cannot separate social conservatives, who are responsible for all the repression in our history, and currently make their home in the republican party, from the irrelevant party they occupied at the time of their racist transgressions. It shows that either you are being disingenuous and know that the southern social conservatives have ALWAYS been the engine for racism and discrimination and pretend otherwise. Or, you are just really that ignorant of history and simply don't read very well.

I'd say it's a mixture of both. Again, if anyone wants to look for why thee modern republican party is in the state it is in, look at the ignorant posts of this guy and his refusal to read and absorb simple history.

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Well, it's fortunate for our republic that people like you are literally dying out.

 

Fair enough.

Also, I totally agree that the much more pressing issue and by far the larger threat is our country turning into (or already there?) an oligarchy where the rich purchase whatever legislation they feel necessary to continue their profits trending upward.

As a student of history, I really bothers me when people twist something like social conservatism into something it isn't. Especially when we have ample information on the subject. Surely, some history is subjective. Which group is responsible for oppression in this country, is not.

 

I thought about responding to this with something thought out and concise. Though, your response was so nonsensical it doesn't deserve such attention. Therefore, I make a post as empty and useless as yours. Please go read a history book so you don't sound so ridiculous.

 

I think the cons on this board are arguing that Republicanism hasn't changed- which it hasn't. You are absolutely correct in your post that the conservative platform has changed since then. However, traditional Republicanism and it's definition has not changed.

 

That's also fair.
I think you know what i'm getting at here, though. I'm not debating the merits of small government and less taxation.

 

Yes, I totally see your point and agree. I think that cons get kind of defensive because they cling to the Republican name.

What led to the civil war; Republicans embodied big government and regulation.

I tend to take a back seat when conservatives start arguing that they (conservative Republicans) freed the slaves. It's revisionist history.

 

Well. You simply cannot avoid the hard facts of history and the Democrat Party.

Rev. Wayne Perryman, a respected black minister and community activist. Perryman, an author, lecturer and a former newspaper publisher and radio talk show host who has received a multitude of honors and awards for his work and community service, was recently recognized by Chairman Benjamin Jealous of the NAACP for his latest research on racism and politics.

http://www.federalobserver.com/2011...-discrimination-suit-against-obama-democrats/

It is long past time that the DNC own and apologize for their horrible history toward Black Americans

 

Yes. They carried Democrats when the Democrats held them on the Plantations...
Today they still carry Democrats who control the inner cities where they are held in crime ridden squalor and dependence.

 

For me, this and cultural degradation are the two biggest problems in America. I think both parties have contributed to both problems in almost equal measure, though I consider myself a rightist and lean that way.

 

I agree. This is like freshman history. Everyone should know that the parties have gone through major shifts over the years. Comparing either one to their historical counterparts is just silly. Anyone who spends 30 minutes researching this should come out with a better understanding of the issue. I will say that Republicans have historically been fairly consistent in their support of corporations--this is probably their most enduring trait.

 

MARGARET SANGER QUOTES, Founder of the Birth Control League (which later became Planned Parenthood)

"No woman shall have the legal right to bear a child… without a permit for parenthood."
- Margaret Sanger (founder of Planned Parenthood) in her proposed The American Baby Code, intended to become law.

"The most merciful thing that a family does to one of its infant members is to kill it."
- Margaret Sanger (editor). The Woman Rebel, Volume I, Number 1. Reprinted in Woman and the New Race. New York: Brentanos Publishers, 1922.

"Birth control must lead ultimately to a cleaner race."
- Margaret Sanger. Woman, Morality, and Birth Control. New York: New York Publishing Company, 1922. Page 12.

"We should hire three or four colored ministers, preferably with social-service backgrounds, and with engaging personalities. The most successful educational approach to the Negro is through a religious appeal. We don't want the word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population. and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members."
Margaret Sanger's December 19, 1939 letter to Dr. Clarence Gamble, 255 Adams Street, Milton, Massachusetts. Original source: Sophia Smith Collection, Smith College, North Hampton, Massachusetts. Also described in Linda Gordon's Woman's Body, Woman's Right: A Social History of Birth Control in America. New York: Grossman Publishers, 1976.

 

I've only seen "conservatives" argue that in response to the "conservatism is racism" fallacy we've been SATURATED with in media for decades now and hear practically every day here. It's one of the most repeated LW advertisements, the marketing that the LW does instead of discuss actual policy.

It's the left that opens the door on this with all the "historical conservative racist" fallacies and errors in attempts to hide its own history. The nonleft didn't concoct "dog whistle racism," the "Southern Strategy," or the most fallacious "more blacks would vote GOP if the GOP wasn't racist." Then when the RW has the nerve to respond to the BS, morons pretend that the RW are the ones who brought it up. It's right here in this thread in black and white. LW starts a thread about historical "conservative racism," and then when that absurdity is responded to and debunked, as it has been over and over and over and over and over on this forum, suddenly it's the RW claiming to have freed the slaves.

Some of you in the thread need to take Logic 101 and a college level debating class. You are sadly inept and unable to avoid repeating the most elementary fallacies.

 

So Republicans support a zero percent tax rate?

 

Did you seriously just argue Bull Conner, the arch Social Conservative, was a Progressive? What the (*)(*)(*)(*) are you smoking?