Contradictions in atheism

Then atheist believe in gods of a kind once they get and admit that the contradiction will be gone with those atheists wont it?

 

Nope, you'll just keep talking yourself in circles.

What very few, and none convincingly, will do is lay out a simple logical arguement, and none of you will define a thesis statement to even begin that arguement.

Thesis: There is no God, we find God to be unlikely, whatever ...

Proof?

Who the hell knows?

But people do notice it when dozens of atheists absolutely refuse to do this, and yet present themselves as the ACME of reason and logic.

That is indeed a rather obvious contradiction isn't stig?

 

No! Look at that definition of 'believe' again.
"be·lieve (b-lv)
v. be·lieved, be·liev·ing, be·lieves
v.tr.
1. To accept as true or real: Do you believe the news stories?
2. To credit with veracity: I believe you.
3. To expect or suppose; think: I believe they will arrive shortly.
v.intr.
1. To have firm faith, especially religious faith.
2. To have faith, confidence, or trust: I believe in your ability to solve the problem.
3. To have confidence in the truth or value of something: We believe in free speech.
4. To have an opinion; think: They have already left, I believe."

Notice that the definition even includes the act of 'thinking', about God or gods or anything else.Thus the reason the Bible instructs the Christians to monitor even their thoughts and prescribes the type of things we should think about....:
"Phl 4:8 Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things [are] honest, whatsoever things [are] just, whatsoever things [are] pure, whatsoever things [are] lovely, whatsoever things [are] of good report; if [there be] any virtue, and if [there be] any praise, think on these things."

 

if you say you know there is no god then ya i know because i know seems contrary

i just don’t think the notion that there is no god independent of non-divine minds is a contradiction

 

Unfortunately, this is exactly what I am getting at.

DEFINE and DEFEND your position on God.

What we get instead is any old excuse, the "Well, what if God is," and that is called arguement from absurdity.

Just define your position, and then understand that once you, you will find out that you have the same logical problems that all religions do.

And yet when we say atheists do not like accountability?

Well, OK, lets see you defend a define position.

Otherwise, all we get are contradictions.

 

hmm i don’t know how a type 1 or 2 could will themselves to know if there a type 1 or 2 though

that might make them potently just very powerful type 3 gods

 

This is moronic.

I believe Darth Vader is the antagonist in the Star Wars series.

I do not believe Darth Vader is a real person.

No contradiction.

 

Remember now, you are the one that said "This is moronic." when speaking about your writing. Using the word 'this' as the opening word in your writing, you have indicated that the words which follow after the word 'this' is "moronic".
So have it your way.

 

You utterly baffle me. What are you trying to achieve?

Nobody in their right mind would possibly think thats what I'm saying.

 

Your use of the word "this" as the opening word in your post is inaccurate and deceptive if you were referring to anything other than what you were writing. You know,, 'this' compared to 'that'. Please learn the proper use of the English language.

Well, what distinguishes a 'right mind'?

 

Another lie. I have never said that the freezing point of water is arbitrary. I stated that the numbers on the various scales used to measure that freezing point are arbitrary. If you are going to be making false claims, at least display the intellectual capacity to get the facts straight. No-one on this forum has yet proven that those numbers are NOT arbitrary. So quit printing lies.

 

I laugh in your general direction .. You claimed numerous times that because the numbers on the scale are arbitrary the freezing point of water was arbitrary.

Then upon seeing that you were wrong you tried to switch sides and claimed that I was claiming the freezing point of water was arbitrary.

Not one lie .. but two !!

The first lie:

Indeed you did claim that the freezing pont of water is arbitrary.

Then in the next quote, after I had proven you wrong, you change your tune and start accusing me of your folly. The second lie.

Here we see me trying patiently to get across why the freezing pont of water is independent of the scale.

You show no understanding of what I say but repeat your claim that the freezing point of water is arbitary.

Again here is me trying to bring you up to speed .. clearly I am claiming the freezing point of water is not arbitrary. Yet you lie your face off in the end (quote #3) by stating that it was I who was claiming that the freezing point of water was not arbitrary. Liar Liar pants on fire !!

To my completely logical post you respond with rubbish still trying to maintain your claim that the freezing point of water is subjective/arbitrary.

Busted

 

I think the major problem with atheists is that they seem to be lacking in religious tolerance.

 

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