Conversation with a Pastor

No one is saying women can't be prophets. Judges are prophets, as you know. However, prophets aren't exactly leaders. Do you understand what I'm saying?

As far as who wrote Timothy. Clearly, a scribe wrote for Paul in a letter to Timothy. Have you read the book of Timothy?

 

The poster forgot Pol Pot, Augusto Pinochet, Ho Chi Minh and half a dozen other 20th century megalomaniacs. And I use the term megalomaniac because these people had delusional fantasies of power.

Wow,, these people were Atheists therefore all Atheists and Atheism are evil. Really stupid and uneducated.

 

its funny when people are making those same types of conclusions except in regards to Christianity I don't see you start crying and claiming they're uneducated for doing so. Why is that?

 

Who here is saying that about Christianity?

 

I guess you haven't been here long. Just take a short scroll back through the thread topics.

 

I've been here for years. I've scrolled through hundreds of thread topics. I have yet to see any atheist here claim that all Christians are evil or that Christianity is evil based on the actions of certain high-profile megalomaniacs. I've heard a lot of Christians claim that such thread or posts are out there, but they have a hard time pointing me to specific posts or naming names. Maybe it happened at some point, and if it did then the person making the claim was being foolish.

What I have seen is atheists claiming that certain specific actions are immoral or that certain parts of the Bible's teachings are immoral or that certain Christian doctrines are immoral or that the actions of certain megalomaniacs prove that Christians are every bit as capable of immorality as atheists are. But no, I'm not familiar with anyone here making the claim that all Christians are evil or that Christianity is evil due to the actions of high-profile megalomaniacs.

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I've been here for years. I've scrolled through hundreds of thread topics. I have yet to see any atheist here claim that all Christians are evil or that Christianity is evil based on the actions of certain high-profile megalomaniacs. I've heard a lot of Christians claim that such thread or posts are out there, but they have a hard time pointing me to specific posts or naming names. Maybe it happened at some point, and if it did then the person making the claim was being foolish.

What I have seen is atheists claiming that certain specific actions are immoral or that certain parts of the Bible's teachings are immoral or that certain Christian doctrines are immoral or that the actions of certain megalomaniacs prove that Christians are every bit as capable of immorality as atheists are. But no, I'm not familiar with anyone here making the claim that all Christians are evil or that Christianity is evil due to the actions of high-profile megalomaniacs.

 

Of course womens brains are wired differently. If you know the differences then you should know that a world ruled by women would be a much better place.

The second paragraph is nonsense. You've told me there are things you don't believe when I 've told you about the OT. You therefore have a closed mind.
A closed mind is one that won't even consider other points of view. Crank has obviously looked into things, as I have, and rejected them for good reasons. You cannot have a closed mind to much of the worlds knowledge if you've never even heard of it. Bring it on. We'll consider it and give it our opinion.

 

I never said that atheists made the claim that all Christians are like that. What in the world are you ranting about?

I also didn't say that all atheists were like the genocidal maniacs that I pointed to. You're just ranting to rant for no purpose. Certainly nothing that I've said.

 

ROFLMAO!

You haven't been around many women, I see. Women get into more altercations than men. Many women hate each other due to superfluous reasons (I.E. How one dresses, how one conducts themself, how one talks, one's work ethic, etc.). Would the world be a better place? I think not.

What are those reasons? I keep asking and no one seems to want to tell me. You claim I'm closed minded, but then when you're judged by the same standards you use to judge others, all of a sudden it's nonsense. So, seriously. What are the reasons for rejecting the evidence Crank sees in regards to *any* god existing? Please tell me.

 

It sounds like either a comedy skit or an episode of Boiling Point, depending on your level of patience...

 

You are losing track of your own conversation.

Lizarddust said: “Wow,, these people were Atheists therefore all Atheists and Atheism are evil. Really stupid and uneducated.
You responded to this claim by saying: “when people are making those same types of conclusions except in regards to Christianity I don't see you start crying and claiming they're uneducated for doing so
So either “those same types of conclusions” refers to “these people were [Christians] therefor all [Christians] and [Christianity] are evil”, or your response to lizarddust makes no sense at all. So again, where are the atheists drawing this conclusion?

No one claimed you did. Where are you getting that from?

The "rant" you are talking about is purely imaginary. I never said you made those claims about atheism. Lizarddust laughed at the idea that some Christians make this claim about atheism, and you challenged that he had no complaint when atheists make the same argument about Christians.

 

No lizard dust was responding to my first post where I was laughing at atheists who try to condemn Christianity for the actions of some people who claim to be Christian.

I simply pointed out that atheism has its poor representatives as well. Then lizard came back naming multiple atheists that were also poor representatives, created a straw man argument I wasn't making by talking about "all" atheists and then attacksd the straw man.

I simply said how come when atheists point to poor representatives of Christianity he doesn't make the same argument for them.

Please pay attention.

 

Yes...I am serious!

You have decided thgis is an attack regardless of what was intended....This is a persecution complex and an overly sensitive reaction.

 

No one has yet proven Satan hasn't had anything to do with the bible and it's contents. So for one to believe it all without that knowledge is easily tricked. For what better way for Satan to rule the world/earth than to trick people into believing a book was wholly inspired by God?

 

So if I compared Charles Darwin to, say a child molester and said which one was more moral you wouldn't consider that an attack on Darwin and what he represented?

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Inspired does not mean written by. There are plenty of errors in the bible. But that's why the bible is not the word of God. Jesus Christ is the Word of God. And his doctrine was perfect.

 

I was paying attention. You responded to a post that only had one conclusion in it and said that atheists were making those same types of conclusions in regards to Christianity. Now you are saying that you were talking about other conclusions, in which case you should have quoted the post you were referring to.

 

It has been pointed out many times, they may have been genocidal maniacs, but they never killed everything on earth but those things in an ark.

 

How do you think this thread is attacking christianity? It asked a question to a female pastor, she couldn't answer.
Have you provide the answer in the OP?

 

She has the closed mind? Are you open to the idea a different God than the former Jewish God, now the God of Jews, muslims, and christians is the only or correct God? Is Vishnu on your radar as the one true God? If not, why is your mind closed?

 

Nope, the christians in here made fun of women. Within the 2 pages, 2 christians said the problem with the OP is he asked a woman pastor and that was wrong because no woman could be a real pastor. The bible says so.

 

Of course I'm open, if the evidence is there. Provide me the evidence and we'll examine it together.

But that's a contradiction. If Satan wasn't real, then what purpose would Satan have tricking you into believing Satan exists? Think about it. Doesn't make sense, does it?

 

And perhaps inspired to be written by satan.

 

No thanks, do your own research and examine for yourself. There's as much evidence for other religions as there is christianity.

But according to christianity, satan very much exists. And one of his roles is to rule the earth, influence mankind.
http://www.keyway.ca/htm2001/20010504.htm

 

So you equating god with our everyday experience of this thing we call reality? Or has your thought, or the thought of others, invented some reality that you are referencing?

Now you say, you believe, that there is an immortal forever, all powerful, everlasting master and father that does exist. But that is belief, nothing more, and any image you have of it, is created by the brain, using what you have been taught. For you cannot prove your belief with evidence that can be shown, as I can show you that the shoes on my feet exist, if you were here. If God could be shown, there would be no disagreement over its existence.

Anyways, if god does exist, he would be outside of this reality, and what is outside of this reality can never be proven to exist. All that one can do, is to believe it exists. But one can believe in many things that do not exist. But to believe in such things, is not rationality. So the belief that god exists, or the belief he does not exist is irrational. Man only does it for ulterior motives. That is so easy to see, why man does it.

So the truth here is, you believe, simply because you find it easier, but you do not believe based upon hard evidence. For there is none. And my point is, if god does exist, it is outside of this reality, and cannot ever be known. That is the truth, whether one will accept it or not. Or rather, it is the fact.


So you and the atheists are very much alike, in your desertion of rationality. Neither will admit that there is no way to ever know, unless of course, HE appears to humanity, and there can be no doubt as to its existence. But he would have to appear now, today, and we cannot accept what some creative brain made up thousands of years ago, for that is proof of nothing, except man made stuff up.

 

No, I would not. I would however consider the individual that did the comparison to be confused and a bit of a prick. I do not feel the need to get pissed because someone bashed Darwin.